tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post1279385357377331991..comments2024-03-18T15:46:07.295-05:00Comments on F This Movie!: Review: Bone TomahawkPatrick Bromleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00771837625286775607noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-85585813759168889882016-04-07T18:14:57.332-05:002016-04-07T18:14:57.332-05:00Yep. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't...Yep. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter. Bone Tomahawk exists and I'm glad it does. However, if he genuinely intended on making a straight up western, he failed. That's not to say I think he's a failure, by that I mean his comments come across as either disingenuous or delusional. But alas, there is a stigma with the label of horror many directors want no part of. He has made a movie that is clearly influenced by horror tropes and contains beats within the narrative. Denying such things won't make the movie any better. It's already outstanding and I can't wait to see what he does next.<br />Cheerynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-49028429093249453592016-04-07T13:02:25.950-05:002016-04-07T13:02:25.950-05:00I knew about him writing Asylum Blackout also when...I knew about him writing Asylum Blackout also when going in to seeing Bone Tomahawk so, yeah, it's possibly bullshit. As I mentioned though, I like to believe what the director/writer says though. I swear Krampus was cut to hell and was supposed to be R Rated, Dougherty says the exact opposite so, okay, I'm believing him. All in all it doesn't matter, I loved BT and agree it's a brilliant Horror/Western. Chaybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696179838579647187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-17400427560898480572016-04-07T12:01:42.842-05:002016-04-07T12:01:42.842-05:00*intentions. Not attentions. *intentions. Not attentions. Cheerynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-70384567278715259482016-04-07T11:56:34.657-05:002016-04-07T11:56:34.657-05:00I'm going to dip below the surface here. This ...I'm going to dip below the surface here. This is his first feature as a director and he wants to be taken seriously. I can't tell a director what his attentions were but I can point out that a "western with horrific elements" is not a "straight up western." I will also add that if your narrative is founded on horrifying circumstance with horrific elements then you have told a story of horror. Stories of horror can exist within ANY context and narrative. The structure even follows that of a monster movie and reminds me of Jaws. We get a kill at the beginning, another gutted victim in a stable, brief glimpses of the monsters, then a fabulous final act where the monsters are confronted. Remove all the graphic violence and you still have a horror here. He's woven this perfectly into a "Cowboys vs. Indians" frontier world. He's made a brilliant Horror/Western mashup.<br /><br />This feels to me like he's trying to wade over to the deep end as if Horror is the kiddie pool. Of course, there is plenty of urine and excrement floating around over there, so I get it. He slyly distances himself further by saying that it's cool horror fans have taken ownership of the film, thus "admitting" he's not of that camp. I'm not "taking ownership" as a fan of horror, I'm calling it like I see it. For what it's worth, he also wrote Asylum Blackout, which I would consider Horror as well. It's not PR, it's please-take-me-seriously-ese. He's written two horror movies and probably wants to be considered more than a Horror Filmmaker. I'll repeat, I get it. And I'm not calling bullshit, however, we're not wrong either.Cheerynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-71463231339451916242016-04-06T20:44:31.082-05:002016-04-06T20:44:31.082-05:00Here's the problem, and for the record I compl...Here's the problem, and for the record I completely agree that the film was Horror from the beginning, the problem though is that we're wrong. I like to believe what the writer/director tells me about his movie. Sometimes I think it's bullshit PR but with a smaller movie such as this and a struggling writer/director who after 13 scripts or so finally got one made, I believe him. In a couple interviews I listened to and read, he explains that he has mostly written Westerns or Crime Dramas. He was explicitly asked if this was a Horror film and he said absolutely not. He wrote it and filmed it as a Western. Paraphrasing, he says "Yes, there are horrific elements but it was always meant as a straight up western. Horror fans have seemed to take ownership of the film though, which is cool, but it wasn't the intention." Take that for what it's worth, but I believe it. It doesn't change my opinion of the film, which I loved (was on my top ten last year) but it does change the way I view it knowing the perspective of the author's intention. Chaybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696179838579647187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-41226314630726516472016-04-06T19:50:51.410-05:002016-04-06T19:50:51.410-05:00Finally got around to watching this. I avoided rev...Finally got around to watching this. I avoided reviews and basically only knew that 1: it had cannibals and 2: it was being described as a western that turns into horror. I agree with one of those things and I liked it a lot save for one plot convenience. I'm interested if anyone else shares my opinions...<br /><br />SPOILERY SPOILERISH SPOILERS<br /><br />This movie was horror from the beginning and here's why. The movie opens with two men wandering into a creepy predicament, one is shot with an arrow, the other flees the scene. It's the moment when Arquette's character flees that we see, in the background, a dark frighteningly-larger-than-Sid-Haig ominous figure finishing the job. If you look closely you can see him being disemboweled. Then the title appears. We have been presented with a pre-title sequence death. Not long after the main characters being established, a second death happens, setting the plot into motion. Of course the last 45 minutes reveal so much more horror and I could go on and on about how effective each attack is and how wonderfully designed and presented are the troglodytes and their violence. This movie felt to me like a horror set in a "western" time period. The middle section definitely feels and looks like a western but we still have the lingering horror of the unknown state of Lady O'Dwyer and the Deputy. I was curious if my knowledge of the existence of cannibals in the film was the reason for setting the tone from the beginning for me, but upon retrospection, I feel as if they had been kidnapped by an unknown band of no-gooders and then we discover what they actually are then it could have been a western that takes a turn but it's that pre-title sequence that sets the creepy tone from the start, and it's the professor's description of the cave-dwellers before they set off on their journey that had it hitting the horror notes for me from the start.<br /><br />My beef with the plot convenience is simple and as follows. While I liked it from start to finish I am having a hard time believing Samantha would have been in such good shape considering how the canni-men treated their own ladies: eye-stabbed incapacitated baby-vessels. Please don't misunderstand, I was not hungry for more brutality towards women. And I don't need every movie to be steeped in nihilism, but in a movie that is essentially a bleak and horrific depiction of the results of manifest destiny (Samantha makes a comment accentuating this) the conclusion feels a bit convenient to me. If anything had happened to her I would have been devastated as a viewer and I believe a more daring storyteller would have written a different fate for her. I'm not saying she should have died. What I'm saying is that every person in that cave was fucked up and she had dirt on her dress. It concluded as "hero saves princess" for me.<br /><br />If anyone is reading this please share your thoughts. And please change my mind because it's the only thing that kept this from being a perfect movie-watching experience for me. Every other aspect of the film was tip-top-notch. I've seen it once and plan to revisit it.<br />Cheerynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-45845295106652567292016-03-19T14:25:26.189-05:002016-03-19T14:25:26.189-05:00Thank you for the recommendation on this one. I ca...Thank you for the recommendation on this one. I came to your website when I started looking for a decent movie podcast (the one that I listen to on a still fairly regular basis is torturous but, in fairness, did also give Bone Tomahawk a good review). Both the podcast and the website are extremely impressive and as a reader and listener, thank you for that. This movie was terrific and the way I came to see it through your recommendation reminded me of how I (and perhaps a lot of us) came to see movies in the 90's where all it took was one good review for a reliable source to spark the interest and give it a go. I, sadly, have fallen trap to the rotten tomatoes dictatorship where, if a movie does not achieve a certain score, I'll give it a miss. If something like that was around 20 years ago then I never would have seen and, subsequently, loved films like Tree's Lounge, Lone Star, Box of Moonlight, Living in Oblivion etc. This film was definitely in my top 10 for the year and I have recommended it to many people subsequently. For me, the question of how this did not get a theatrical release pales in comparison to the question of how the fuck did this film get made in the first place (and with such stellar cast). Delighted that it did and Patrick Wilson's portrayal has to be the most convincing depiction of a man trying to stumble on with a broken foot ever recorded. Kurt Russell and Richard Jenkins were typically brilliant and even the acting in the small parts given to Sean Young, David Arquette and Zahn McClarnon was excellent. The shocking standout for me, though, was Matthew Fox. I had no idea that he had it in him. He was tremendous and was the perfect conduit for the script's seeming desire to want to convey a lot with just a few words or a collection of gestures. Very much looking forward to see what this director comes up with next. Shane Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17146554889291642431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-49235107943484495202016-01-05T15:45:13.378-06:002016-01-05T15:45:13.378-06:00He was growing it for The Hateful 8 when he signed...He was growing it for The Hateful 8 when he signed on for this film.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01726763052948129581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-52530828680728001012015-10-29T23:44:31.192-05:002015-10-29T23:44:31.192-05:00I finally got around to watching this and I enjoye...I finally got around to watching this and I enjoyed it immensely. I think I can easily say it has a spot in my top 10 of the year. You said it all in your review, the script is great, the actors are great, the direction is great, and the characters are unique and memorable. As a huge western and horror fan, this movie is just right for all my moods and a great movie on its own. We really do need more horror westerns, perhaps that's can be a new wave. And how the hell does Kurt Russell still look that young? Judging by this performance, I would say he has another 30 years of action roles in him. I'm also super excited to see what S. Craig Zahler does next. Thanks for the recommendation! Clint Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13370897803583992296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-14344604763399759962015-10-28T13:53:40.810-05:002015-10-28T13:53:40.810-05:00Holy shit how did I miss this movie....Kurt Russel...Holy shit how did I miss this movie....Kurt Russell Western fuck yes! Gotta track this down immediatelyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-81614961673226781782015-10-26T22:14:08.441-05:002015-10-26T22:14:08.441-05:00You sold me. Just another reason why I love this s...You sold me. Just another reason why I love this site. I probably would have never heard of this<br /> Gonna check it outLuke Cianciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13341348650523272729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-59058798929867676912015-10-26T21:03:18.861-05:002015-10-26T21:03:18.861-05:00Hey thanks for reviewing this I probably wouldn...Hey thanks for reviewing this I probably wouldn't have watched it without you saying how good it is so I checked it out and absolutely loved it. A western horror movie is right up my alley so it hit every sweet spot for me. Awesome flick. Can't wait to see Kurt Russell do this again in Hateful Eight.Travis Larsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17655036201508857781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-32762456864976663982015-10-26T19:21:01.727-05:002015-10-26T19:21:01.727-05:00That poster is fucking beautiful. Even if I don...That poster is fucking beautiful. Even if I don't like the movie I might want that on my wall.Kelly Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07386293362513200439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-89256720722451188902015-10-26T14:30:31.418-05:002015-10-26T14:30:31.418-05:00You've been on a roll with the good movies - I...You've been on a roll with the good movies - I seem to recall quite a few bad ones in a row not long ago. This really sounds amazing - the cast alone has me sold - I hadn't even heard of it until a few days ago.Solhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03114869401584310369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-45161395092339954452015-10-26T14:15:40.084-05:002015-10-26T14:15:40.084-05:00OH MAN. I feel hyped.OH MAN. I feel hyped.Daniel Eplerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01866855763520017556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-53436746739970248272015-10-26T14:13:21.891-05:002015-10-26T14:13:21.891-05:00I got to meet Sid Haig a couple of weeks ago at Fe...I got to meet Sid Haig a couple of weeks ago at Fear Fete and he talked about this a little during his Q&A. I'm very much ready for it.Jon Hillmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336259908056545249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-55923217997179194582015-10-26T12:56:56.778-05:002015-10-26T12:56:56.778-05:00Also, note that Russell's mustache is so incre...Also, note that Russell's mustache is so incredible, it's making two film appearances this year.adamarmourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04361116900351762285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-21677806863725793302015-10-26T12:53:41.422-05:002015-10-26T12:53:41.422-05:00I really can't wait to see this. Kurt Russell ...I really can't wait to see this. Kurt Russell continues to be the most badass actor in Hollywood. I love that man.adamarmourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04361116900351762285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-82307515270475781122015-10-26T12:40:35.489-05:002015-10-26T12:40:35.489-05:00It really is that good and I generally do not like...It really is that good and I generally do not like Westerns. Hard to believe this is the director's debut as the film looks freakin' beautiful. Chaybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696179838579647187noreply@blogger.com