tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post1792708078230582125..comments2024-03-19T05:54:12.521-05:00Comments on F This Movie!: F This Movie! - The Year So Far (2014)Patrick Bromleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00771837625286775607noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-39839187950274923792014-05-16T18:28:37.848-05:002014-05-16T18:28:37.848-05:00Patrick, listen. LISTEN. If we've learned anyt...Patrick, listen. LISTEN. If we've learned anything from my contributions to F This Movie in the last two weeks it's that 8 years is ample time for Japan to get over the horrors of atomic warfare during World War II and that a 20-second montage is more than enough time to get over the death of a loved one.<br />Heath Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802874033845631338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-45920748710730728842014-05-16T15:49:20.530-05:002014-05-16T15:49:20.530-05:00I can't speak for everyone, but I would have b...I can't speak for everyone, but I would have been there for The Raid 2...if it had come to a theater near me. I still really want to see it, though. I also need to check out Blue Ruin, apparently.John Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08810774557887719483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-38036381469795722762014-05-16T15:27:23.408-05:002014-05-16T15:27:23.408-05:00From my perspective the major themes were the cont...From my perspective the major themes were the contrast between those who give and those who take, the power of physical attraction, and the nature of intimacy. This is a little different from <a href="http://www.film4.com/special-features/interviews/under-the-skin-the-script" rel="nofollow">the views of the screenwriter</a>.<br /><br />*** The following discussion contains SPOILERS for UNDER THE SKIN. ***<br /><br /><b>Givers versus Takers:</b> The alien was motivated by its own interests, and used charm and physical attraction as a means to get what it wanted. Most of the men initially appeared to be helpful (giving directions to a lost traveler), but ultimately acted in their own self-interest (satisfying their sexual desires). Some men, like the group attacking the parked van, did not bother with the pleasantries. By contrast, others were more selfless: they picked up the fallen; gave food and warmth to the stranded; and provided shelter to the lost.<br /><br />The characterization of givers and takers was exemplified best during the beach scene. The swimmer did not feel lonely or alienated; he sought solitude. Coincidentally, he seemed unaffected by the aliens' charms. While the alien was focused on its prey, the swimmer was aware of those around him and heroically took action when danger arose. Ultimately, the giver was overcome by the taker, who relied on a more direct approach (bonk) while being completely indifferent to others' needs.<br /><br /><b>Power of Physical Attraction:</b> The men were fixated upon the female figure as they entered the black void, seemingly unaware of their fate while submerging into a gooey liquid that would ultimately suck the life out of them. Discuss.<br /><br /><b>Nature of Intimacy:</b> In the first act, we see the alien go back and forth between blank indifference and engaging charm. The banter escalated to physical contact with the disfigured man. Although the contact was used as part of the entrapment scheme, the act seemed to initiate a change in the alien's behavior. The Alien subsequently became disoriented (falling on the street), started exploring new experiences (eating cake), and later participated in a more intimate relationship with the man from the bus. The relationship ended when the alien realized it was not prepared for intimacy. This is presented physically with the newfound awareness of human anatomy; it could also be interpreted as symbolism for not wanting to expose one's true self in a close relationship.Ivannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-42244645319593726392014-05-16T12:10:10.074-05:002014-05-16T12:10:10.074-05:00What, no love for the first three "Pink Panth...What, no love for the first three "Pink Panther" sequels as superior-to-the-original comedies (and blockbusters to boot)? Ignoring the Edwards/Sellers-lacking "Inspector Clouseau" and post-"Revenge" movies, "A Shot In The Dark," "The Pink Panther Returns" and (my particular favorite) "The Pink Panther Returns" are all arguably better, funnier and building on what the previous comedy did. Not a diss on the original "Panther" (it has its own charm) but it is quite slow and the laughs are spaced out. By adding key elements (Dreyfus and Kato in "Dark," a cartoony disregard for physics, etc.) as it went along the first three sequels actually improve and are better than the original "Pink Panther," IMHO.J.M. Vargashttps://plus.google.com/u/0/114656828393049850554/postsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-57388396093976193462014-05-16T07:54:39.689-05:002014-05-16T07:54:39.689-05:00sorry, i didnt mean to use that example to bring u...sorry, i didnt mean to use that example to bring up old wounds (in the moment of being at the movies I kinda liked it...except the villains, but Peter and Gwen worked for me), I just thought it worked as the other end of the spectrum. Brad Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426952757794850746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-86032591752818143092014-05-16T07:51:33.309-05:002014-05-16T07:51:33.309-05:00Great podcast guys - you've got such an extens...Great podcast guys - you've got such an extensive stable of co-hosts to revolve through now that I'm excited by whoever's on. "Yay! A JB episode!" "Yay! A Mike episode!" "Yay! A Mark episode!" etc. Yay!<br /><br />A few thoughts:<br /><br />I wonder if the creators of <i>The Purge</i> realize that the vast majority of the murders that take place during "The Purge" would probably be spousal. Makes the whole premise a little ridiculous. It should pretty much be called Finally Kill Your Wife Day.<br /><br />I LOVED <i>Blue Ruin</i> - truly an Oscar-worthy performance by MACON BLAIR and such a unique take on the genre. I wish Canada was quicker with the VOD options because it really does seem to be the medium for more interesting films and it feels good to support them.<br /><br />Best time at the movies for me so far was definitely <i>The Raid 2</i>. I don't think I've ever cared or been so disappointed about a movie's box office take - where the hell was everybody? Is <i>The Raid</i> really still such a hidden gem, because I thought everyone loved it?<br /><br />Looking forward to catching <i>Godzilla</i> this weekend so I can be up-to-date for the next podcast - do please continue to give us the heads up on what's to come - I'd rather be prepared than surprised! :)Solhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03114869401584310369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-49438275596404403642014-05-16T07:40:31.158-05:002014-05-16T07:40:31.158-05:00But where they take it is just a 20-second 'se...But where they take it is just a 20-second 'seasons changing' montage before he goes right back to be awesome, jokey Spider-Man. It has no effect. Like everything in the movie, its impact is only in the moment.<br /><br />But that's just me talking.Patrick Bromleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00771837625286775607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-53310148236587437312014-05-16T07:13:32.516-05:002014-05-16T07:13:32.516-05:00I still have to say, though, that I think the movi...I still have to say, though, that I think the movie has elevated that story far beyond the source material. That story is nothing in the comics. Spider-Man is basically like "hey, you killed my girlfriend! I'm gonna murderize you!" He's still quipping. And the movie, while getting there in a bonkers way, gave it weight that it's never, ever had. So that's a change that does work and benefit the movie. I think that's why I'm able to overlook the lazy way they got there, because how it happens isn't as important to me as where they take it. I know it's just me, though.Heath Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802874033845631338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-32669628608850579662014-05-16T07:00:54.362-05:002014-05-16T07:00:54.362-05:00It's true. My affection for that movie comes f...It's true. My affection for that movie comes from the things that work outweighing the things that don't, but the catalyst of the Gwen finale comes out of left field and exists not for the betterment of the story but for checking that box. And like I said on the podcast, what would have been really great for the story would have been letting Gwen live because they have an opportunity to tell stories with that character and do things that have never been done. But I also feel like they HAVE done things with her that have never been done and made a great character out of someone who was just another pretty face and had no personality in the source material. So they've definitely deviated from the source material but not when it counted the most. Heath Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802874033845631338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-76557720612236208372014-05-16T05:53:54.003-05:002014-05-16T05:53:54.003-05:00Yes! I love All That Jazz with all of my little bl...Yes! I love All That Jazz with all of my little black heart.JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17076030814908114779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-5731931266078866212014-05-15T23:40:11.497-05:002014-05-15T23:40:11.497-05:00I went to the free screening of Weekend at Bernie&...I went to the free screening of Weekend at Bernie's as well, but in California.<br /><br />I saw the trailer for it in front of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and dragged my mom to see it. Surprisingly, she laughed at the film so hard she still talks about the experience.<br /><br />A couple years later we went to see the sequel and was greatly disappointed. Not funny one bit.<br /><br />Happy to report July 29, 2014 Twin Peaks comes to Blu Ray and All That Jazz will be out in August from Criterion.Cameron Cloutierhttp://www.bodianstfilms.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-11358117911750614902014-05-15T22:27:59.834-05:002014-05-15T22:27:59.834-05:00What was your interpretation? I'd love to read...What was your interpretation? I'd love to read it. Call out SPOILERS if you are sharing any (which I'm assuming you would).Adam Riskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01165600746796326821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-4501965417481184092014-05-15T22:24:38.590-05:002014-05-15T22:24:38.590-05:00Watched Under the Skin today. Enjoyed it but still...Watched Under the Skin today. Enjoyed it but still processing. It's the cinematic equivalent to walking through an art gallery; impactful but not entirely sure my interpretation is what the filmaker intended.Ivannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-56656618754832099882014-05-15T21:40:54.460-05:002014-05-15T21:40:54.460-05:00For sure, versus the death of Gwen Stacey scenario...For sure, versus the death of Gwen Stacey scenario (sorry) where they felt they had to kill her and to do that they had to introduce the Harry, have him turn into green goblin and have her die by falling and for Peter to catch her and break her back. <br />You could argue that gwens death was organic to the story but all the rest was a result of being too slavish to the source. Brad Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426952757794850746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-48982191283214174612014-05-15T20:14:57.375-05:002014-05-15T20:14:57.375-05:00I agree 100%. Let changes drive a better story and...I agree 100%. Let changes drive a better story and not feel arbitrary. You've seen this story about the NBC executive who asked if the Walking Dead could be done without zombies? That's the mentality I'm speaking against. Heath Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802874033845631338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-74614217733951317292014-05-15T20:10:42.340-05:002014-05-15T20:10:42.340-05:00I did too.I did too.Heath Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802874033845631338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-24133667798659876482014-05-15T19:36:29.927-05:002014-05-15T19:36:29.927-05:00I swore JBs followup comment to Jesus' "I...I swore JBs followup comment to Jesus' "I'm coming" was going to be very different. <br />Says more about me. Brad Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426952757794850746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-84630417196182973492014-05-15T19:25:54.544-05:002014-05-15T19:25:54.544-05:00Agree in part with point 1. The source should be t...Agree in part with point 1. The source should be the starting point, in particular regarding characterisation and inter-character relationships, and to an extent motivations. But then there shouldn't be fear in changing things in service of the movie being made. Change things if necessary but if not then keep to the source. Brad Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426952757794850746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-50020503459322667322014-05-15T16:15:51.917-05:002014-05-15T16:15:51.917-05:00well, her and Thora Birch.well, her and Thora Birch.John Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08810774557887719483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-65203478421000212032014-05-15T16:10:32.910-05:002014-05-15T16:10:32.910-05:00I only liked Casper because of Christina Ricci. An...I only liked Casper because of Christina Ricci. And I seem to recall that Patrick was more of a Gabby Hoffman fan, but Ricci was also the main reason I liked Now and Then back in 1995. She was A-OK in my bookJohn Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08810774557887719483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-54292744044462914442014-05-15T15:45:07.016-05:002014-05-15T15:45:07.016-05:00+1 to the inexplicable Christina Ricci fascination...+1 to the inexplicable Christina Ricci fascination of my youth. I just wanted to stare into her giant eyes.<br /><br />I'm also embarassed to have misspelled <i>Ad<em>d</em>ams Family Values</i> and <i>Bill <em>&</em> Ted's Bogus Journey</i>. Shame on me. (I love how Patrick is able to so politely correct people in an indirect way.)<br /><br />For me, Ghostbusters 2 worked well because I was still young when it came out so I was totally scared of Vigo.AdamDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-83268165568291179382014-05-15T15:22:00.684-05:002014-05-15T15:22:00.684-05:00Also! Chaplin's Mutual shorts coming to Blu-ra...Also! Chaplin's Mutual shorts coming to Blu-ray is very exciting. I have those but may consider an upgrade. The entire section toward the end of JB reading upcoming niche DVD and Blu-ray releases has me excited. Can't wait to get my 4K aquarium swerve on!<br /><br />Come on. Let's make history. <br />-JesusHeath Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802874033845631338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-29195555797890555132014-05-15T14:35:34.081-05:002014-05-15T14:35:34.081-05:00Don't feel too bad, I asked a couple of friend...Don't feel too bad, I asked a couple of friends yesterday, and we couldn't think of any either. Or at least comedy sequels that were distinguishable enough to make it nearly as good as the first (looking at you Ghostbusters 2).<br /><br />Of that list Addams Family Values is probably the only movie I might consider to be superior to the original. Mostly because of the camp sequences, and the strange Christina Ricci obsession I had for a couple years. Although I think everyone in the 90's went through the same Ricci related journey. "Well I don't like Casper... but damn do I love Christina Ricci".<br /><br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16803048145743485025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-40863765880831019652014-05-15T13:42:26.847-05:002014-05-15T13:42:26.847-05:00Yes! It was hard to think of some on the spot. But...Yes! It was hard to think of some on the spot. But you've got some great picks there -- <i>Addams Family Values</i> and <i>Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey</i> in particular. I'm not as fond of some of the others, but a case could be made for several. Thanks!Patrick Bromleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00771837625286775607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-17214612248091222272014-05-15T13:37:13.903-05:002014-05-15T13:37:13.903-05:00I was surprised you were unable to come up with an...I was surprised you were unable to come up with any good comedy sequels. May I suggest some possibilities:<br /><br />Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey<br />Christmas Vacation<br />Naked Gun 2 1/2<br />Adams Family Values<br />Shrek 2<br />Ghostbusters 2<br />Crocodile Dundee 2<br />Rush Hour 2<br /><br /><br />Oddly enough several of these follow the "same stuff in new location" formula (e.g., Crocodile Dundee 2). But they all work well enough.AdamDnoreply@blogger.com