tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post4148422443597042867..comments2024-03-19T04:21:45.943-05:00Comments on F This Movie!: Weekend Open ThreadPatrick Bromleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00771837625286775607noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-56192675367553647572015-08-26T19:31:02.476-05:002015-08-26T19:31:02.476-05:00https://medium.com/@joe_hill/something-rotten-4366...https://medium.com/@joe_hill/something-rotten-4366cab5b3a9Michael Giammarinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18053181624489487644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-14282526160994773612015-08-26T19:28:58.750-05:002015-08-26T19:28:58.750-05:00And even if the reviews were across the board bad,...And even if the reviews were across the board bad, if the trailer appeals to me, I'll see it. I'll usually trust word of mouth and wait for video if the trailer itself gives me pause, but I'll never entrust my theater-going solely on reviews. I always have to see it for myself. I only trust a handful of critics, but I tend to go with my gut more. The author Joe Hill posted his own rant today about Rotten Tomatoes and the current state of film criticism. I'll post it here in a little while. It makes a strong case for aggregate, metric style criticism. I think. Michael Giammarinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18053181624489487644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-79048152723425735282015-08-26T19:17:57.139-05:002015-08-26T19:17:57.139-05:00Could they have used multiple marketing campaigns ...Could they have used multiple marketing campaigns for the movie? Sure. But if their marketing budget is limited, they only have limited options. The standard for marketing costs today is insane. Small movies can really get lost in the shuffle. I know they're considered dump months, but the film probably would have faired better in January or February. I don't think The Gift really compares. It had better backing, for one thing, obviously a better marketing budget, and was made for a totally different audience. Michael Giammarinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18053181624489487644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-89897269282953904592015-08-26T12:17:15.376-05:002015-08-26T12:17:15.376-05:00The marketing for this movie was lousy, not in tha...The marketing for this movie was lousy, not in that there wasn't enough of it, but the way they went about it was all wrong. They played up the fact that Eisenberg was a stoner way too much in my opinion. It's like okay I get it you want to market toward that section of the audience, but you can't just rely on a single demographic anymore. There were a lot of different ways they could have played it. I still remember the first time I saw an ad for the movie, it was Jesse Eisenberg on a screen with smoke coming out of his mouth and some stupid tag line on one of the screens in the lobby at my local multiplex that plays trailers the whole time. I totally get what Landis was talking about, but the movie was just simply lacking, kind of boring and predictable, I expected a little more from him to be honest. It's not a bad movie, but it's not a good movie either. I think people go see good original movies based on word of mouth, good reviews always help too, there wasn't a lot of buzz going on with this movie, it seemed to just get lost in the shuffle of what has been a surprisingly good end of the summer movie season with gems like The Gift. Kersey Reschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08115416019425288456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-81040208951517337452015-08-26T04:44:23.983-05:002015-08-26T04:44:23.983-05:00Have you seen Paul Thomas Anderson's Inherent ...Have you seen Paul Thomas Anderson's Inherent Vice yet? If you haven't, I'd be curious as to your reaction to it after having seen The Long Goodbye. Michael Giammarinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18053181624489487644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-22722729642395220272015-08-26T04:42:41.662-05:002015-08-26T04:42:41.662-05:00Did you happen to see The Final Girls? Not the Abi...Did you happen to see The Final Girls? Not the Abigail Breslin one, the other one, where the group are transported inside a slasher movie. The trailer for that looked interesting. Michael Giammarinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18053181624489487644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-5788258302985229352015-08-26T04:26:01.886-05:002015-08-26T04:26:01.886-05:00I think Max has somewhat of a point. The movie'...I think Max has somewhat of a point. The movie's not great, and will probably do better as a party movie on video. With that said, the top 5 last weekend were made up solely of franchise films. I saw American Ultra in a theater with very few people, but we all seemed to like it all right. Everyone laughed their asses off. Your 5/10 is about right, I think. It has a 46 percent on Rotten Tomatoes. I think it'll appeal to fans of the director's previous film, which was Project X, and will probably fall closer towards fans of 30 Seconds Or Less for Jesse Eisenberg's camp. And I thought Kristen Stewart faired nicely, and I don't say that often. I think people will go to see original films if the subject matter in the trailer is appealing to them, and if nothing else that's playing is appealing, and, clearly, judging by this past weekend, that wasn't the case. A trailer is no indication that a movie is good or bad, just as an opening weekend only proves whether a movie's marketing campaign worked or not. You say people will go see an original movie if it's good, but how will you know if it's good unless you see it? The majority of people who like movies like American Ultra don't tend to go to the theater to see them, though. Considering what's popular at the box office at the moment, I don't think a bigger marketing campaign would've helped. Michael Giammarinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18053181624489487644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-36858915508076479112015-08-26T04:07:28.686-05:002015-08-26T04:07:28.686-05:00That's a must buy for me as well.That's a must buy for me as well. Michael Giammarinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18053181624489487644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-41570519116859017832015-08-26T04:06:27.518-05:002015-08-26T04:06:27.518-05:00I saw American Ultra over the weekend too. I thoug...I saw American Ultra over the weekend too. I thought it was all right, nothing fantastic, but fine. It's trashy and cheap looking, but I thought it had its heart in the right place, and will make a fun party movie when it hits video, I think. It's from the director of Project X. Is there even a cult audience for Project X yet? As Jesse Eisenberg movies go, it's somewhere around 30 Seconds Or Less. Is there even a cult audience for 30 Seconds Or Less? As for what Max Landis was lamenting about, and Kersey's response to it, I don't think this movie was marketed well at all. I also don't think you can tell if a movie will be "good" or "bad" just by watching the trailer. All a trailer can do for me is get across whether the subject matter appeals to me. Landis's rant about original movies being unpopular this weekend seem accurate. The top 5 this week is made up of franchise titles, if I'm recalling correctly. The only reason Hitman made money is because it's Hitman, and Fox marketed the hell out of that movie. I truly doubt American Ultra had a shitty marketing budget, but as the weekend shows, the studio would have taken a bigger bath if they'd marketed it better. It's probably not going to hurt Max, he has a few more movies coming, so the bad business of American Ultra won't really hurt him. And the reviews weren't terrible. It's at 46 percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Hitman got worse reviews than American Ultra, and it's in the top 5. Like that review score, reaction to this movie is going to be 50/50. Attendance was slim in the theater I saw it in, but we all seemed to like it. Everyone in the theater were laughing their heads off. What can I say, it's fun, but nothing exceptional. With that said, there's no way to determine how a movie is gonna play by watching the trailer, or if it's good due to box office performance on opening weekend. A good opening weekend just proves the marketing campaign worked. The following weekend will determine if it has good word of mouth. I doubt it will. The majority of people who like this kind of movie don't buy tickets. Michael Giammarinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18053181624489487644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-62370419067886618612015-08-25T18:10:42.028-05:002015-08-25T18:10:42.028-05:00Saw American Ultra today, I didn't read any re...Saw American Ultra today, I didn't read any reviews going in and now I wish I would have, it was very disappointing. I didn't know that Jesse Eisenberg could be in a bad movie, but this certainly is not a good one. It's really too bad, Max Landis is certainly in denial over this flop of a movie. He's trying to blame people for not wanting to go out and see 'original' movies anymore, but that is not the problem here, people will go see original movies if they're good. I never thought that I would find this movie boring going in, I thought, 'at the very least, it should be entertaining and smart.' Coming from the writer of Chronicle, which I enjoyed a lot, I had high hopes. They had a great cast, seemingly strong writer and director, but they just couldn't put it all together. It's at best a 5/10 and that might be generous.Kersey Reschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08115416019425288456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-88761318656552931652015-08-25T17:44:35.547-05:002015-08-25T17:44:35.547-05:00The world is finally a little more balanced - just...The world is finally a little more balanced - just got my Last Dragon Blu Ray in the mail. Chaybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696179838579647187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-52854007174145402382015-08-24T14:59:03.588-05:002015-08-24T14:59:03.588-05:0011. Damn that's going for it, I hope there is...11. Damn that's going for it, I hope there is a real turkey in there too, am I wrong in feeling happy when you see a bad movie so I can enjoy the review? Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13900651640246375537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-80813694423983593292015-08-24T01:38:26.902-05:002015-08-24T01:38:26.902-05:00I watch Robert Altman's 'The Long Goodbye&...I watch Robert Altman's 'The Long Goodbye'. I loved it, though I am loving anything made in the 1970s at the moment. But just the way Elliot Gould moves though. It may have not been hard boiled but Chandler's material totally suited Altman's style. <br /><br />Oh and I saw the trailer for Turbokid, f-ing wow! I wish I gotten my act together and saw it at the Melbourne Film Fest. Lindsay Wilkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418341720079552415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-58824682386501490902015-08-23T23:53:01.067-05:002015-08-23T23:53:01.067-05:00I just saw 11 horror/genre movies this weekend. Th...I just saw 11 horror/genre movies this weekend. There's some good ones on the horizon, F-Heads!Adam Riskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01165600746796326821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-58540120262596727622015-08-23T21:26:15.733-05:002015-08-23T21:26:15.733-05:00The play passed through here about a year ago and ...The play passed through here about a year ago and I've been kicking myself ever since that I never bought tickets.Mykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07889247350189136670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-12045317246163897772015-08-23T20:52:42.285-05:002015-08-23T20:52:42.285-05:00Just watched the original Scream, it's been ki...Just watched the original Scream, it's been kind of a Wes Craven weekend for me. That opening scene is still awesome, might be the best part of the entire movie. Gotta love that line that Craven put in there to stick it to New Line and the Nightmare sequels. Some of Drew Barrymore's best work probably ever. <br /><br />Did anyone check out American Ultra this weekend? I'll be going on Tuesday, kind of my ritual now, since it's 5 dollar night, lol.Kersey Reschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08115416019425288456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-21185750973542137832015-08-23T15:42:05.315-05:002015-08-23T15:42:05.315-05:00Luckily I have two copies of Jackie Brown, on DVD ...Luckily I have two copies of Jackie Brown, on DVD and Blu-ray. (No, I'm not being a show off at all... :-P).J.M. Vargashttps://plus.google.com/u/0/114656828393049850554/postsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-67334306742771443512015-08-23T15:41:46.637-05:002015-08-23T15:41:46.637-05:00I have binge watching The Bond movies and finally ...I have binge watching The Bond movies and finally got to the Brosnan ones. I have to say A view to a kill is one of the most ridiculous things. I wish actually it would have just embraced that and it was a movie about Grace Jones as the villain instead of that incredibly dull horse rubbish. The Living daylights is definitely in my favs now. As is Michelle Yeoh. Man she is awesome. <br /><br />I absolutely loved Paddington also, very charming. Sally Hawkins is so adorable. Gabby Ferrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953028733362435557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-58000669251927236552015-08-23T15:38:31.461-05:002015-08-23T15:38:31.461-05:00What are you guys doing! It is almost October?!What are you guys doing! It is almost October?!Gabby Ferrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953028733362435557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-46954606001364320152015-08-23T15:37:11.171-05:002015-08-23T15:37:11.171-05:00I do love The original Man Who Knew too much also!...I do love The original Man Who Knew too much also! I have a big fondness for 39 Steps. If your ever in London we should see the play, it is hilarious :) Gabby Ferrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953028733362435557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-81094886991815338162015-08-23T15:35:00.374-05:002015-08-23T15:35:00.374-05:00Luckily have a lovely hard copy of Jackie Brown. (...Luckily have a lovely hard copy of Jackie Brown. (Yes I am being a bit of a show off)Gabby Ferrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953028733362435557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-45080511330736065562015-08-23T12:54:11.127-05:002015-08-23T12:54:11.127-05:00Well, I finally crossed a movie I've been mean...Well, I finally crossed a movie I've been meaning to watch since forever off my shame list: <b>Steven Spielberg's HOOK (1991)</b>. Thank you, Amazon Prime! While I don't hate it as much as Patrick does (his FTM podcast is an epic slam against the film even existing) it's a bloated and troubled production (Julia Roberts' Tink is a creepy, needy pseudo-stalker) that is made tolerable by Dustin Hoffman's entertaining and theatrical take on Capt. Hook. Rufio is a punk, but I want to fold Smee into a teddy bear and squeeze him late at night. :-) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y98AuG2-yU4" rel="nofollow">"Hook's" trailer</a> is one of the best previews for a film I've ever seen (epic tune by John Williams and a great tease for the not-shown Neverland and Hook), but the actual movie doesn't live up to the tease.<br /><br />Other films I've seen recently in no particular order: <b>FIRST BLOOD</b> (considering the decaying cartoon action figure he's become of late it's hard to believe Sly Stallone's action career started in a character-driven, story-first dramatic re-imaging of "Deliverance" in the Pacific Northwest), <b>THE WRAITH</b> (the shit I'll watch just so I can hear Patrick talk about it with the Projection Booth folks; I'm genuinely terrified that "Solarbabies" will be just as bad!), <b>MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE</b> (surprisingly entertaining and cheesier than a Wisconsin factory; Man-at-Arms looks like Will Ferrell's father and Evil-Lyn is smoking, but Langella's Skeletor rules... plus he'll be back), <b>RICKI AND THE FLASH</b> (Demme's infatuation with music and Diablo Cody dialing back the snark make for a surprisingly simple and generic mainstream movie; Kevin Kline phones in his performance, yet he's easily the best thing in it), <b>DOUBLE DRAGON</b> (what the fuck are the T-1000 and Samantha from "Who's the Boss?" doing here? Shame on you, Scott Wolf), <b>THE OCTAGON</b> (Chuck Norris versus an army of ninja should equal fun but doesn't; best look at the hardship of going to assassin school isn't enough to save it), <b>DAYLIGHT</b> (disaster movie with minimal CGI, maximum set/miniature effects and Sly Stallone in full hero mode; not bad, but not really good either), <b>LIPS OF BLOOD</b> (Jean Rollin joint that's light on lesbianism, all in with the naked nubile vampires and far out with a plot too esoteric even for him) and, last and certainly least, <b>APOLLO 18</b> (found footage horror on the moon with NASA and US government as the bad guys... <b>FUCK THIS SHIT!!!</b>). <br /><br />Click on my name to read more in-depth reviews if you feel like wasting a few minutes. ;-)J.M. Vargashttps://plus.google.com/u/0/114656828393049850554/postsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-7901764788041828452015-08-23T12:02:17.314-05:002015-08-23T12:02:17.314-05:00Of course I have. There are a lot of episodes I st...Of course I have. There are a lot of episodes I still haven't listened to because I want to see the movie first. The Halloween and Elm Street episodes and the Friday the 13th Part 3 commentary were among them but now I've remedied that.<br /><br />Some movies I've watched (or added to my watchlist) only because there's an FTM podcast on them.Mikko Viinikkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16045016331246302112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-61120924219980589292015-08-23T11:35:33.419-05:002015-08-23T11:35:33.419-05:00Mikko, have you gone back and listened to horror s...Mikko, have you gone back and listened to horror series podcasts with Mike and Patrick after watching all these? Whenever I go through each series, I go back and listen to those. They are my favorite. I'm excited to hear what series they are going to do this year.Brent Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17741998097323944343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-4402642438365769412015-08-23T09:49:42.319-05:002015-08-23T09:49:42.319-05:00JM, it's definitely a fine line. A lot of the ...JM, it's definitely a fine line. A lot of the films might switch columns on a revisit, but that's how I feel right now.<br /><br />Brent, I agree with pretty much everything you said! Great minds think alike.Mikko Viinikkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16045016331246302112noreply@blogger.com