tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post5911521646270189804..comments2024-03-29T04:19:43.461-05:00Comments on F This Movie!: Riske Business: Adam and Patrick on the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Avengers: Age of UltronPatrick Bromleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00771837625286775607noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-57636131243423739622015-04-28T13:14:00.122-05:002015-04-28T13:14:00.122-05:00If you're watching just the movies, there'...If you're watching just the movies, there's no need to see them in any other order than by release date. But it's different if you factor in the TV shows and one-shots.<br /><br />Some of the events in TIH, IM2 and Thor happen simultaneously, and the preferred order is:<br />Iron Man 2<br />One-Shot: A Funny Thing...<br />Thor<br />The Incredible Hulk<br />One-Shot: The Consultant<br /><br />Factoring in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Thor: TDW comes before AoS S1E8 and CA:TWS fits between S1E16 and S1E17. Ultron probably ties into this and next week's episodes, we'll see.<br /><br />I uploaded the up-to-date list <a href="http://justpaste.it/ktka" rel="nofollow">here</a> if anyone's interested.Mikko Viinikkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16045016331246302112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-13484156089665115452015-04-28T13:07:45.783-05:002015-04-28T13:07:45.783-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mikko Viinikkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16045016331246302112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-92046006407974860512015-04-28T10:24:38.728-05:002015-04-28T10:24:38.728-05:00^ Then you might love my instinctive understanding...^ Then you might love my instinctive understanding of Taylor Swift's "Blank Space". It's a double entendre, right? She's saying she has a blank space on her social calendar where a man can fit... and <i>also</i> a blank space <i>down south</i> where a man can fit. That's totally what she means, right? I've had people give me weird looks over this, but I'm pretty sure Bill Shakespeare and Joss Whedon would agree. :PGaithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07025861553487915665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-24765157697473805362015-04-28T05:29:23.202-05:002015-04-28T05:29:23.202-05:00All I know is that Vision is married to Jennifer C...All I know is that Vision is married to Jennifer Connelly :-) Adam Riskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01165600746796326821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-15606581572610753452015-04-28T05:26:50.851-05:002015-04-28T05:26:50.851-05:00I see where you're coming from. I think it spe...I see where you're coming from. I think it speaks to what you are a "geek" about. I'm actually quite jealous of people who get crazy excited for Marvel because I want to share that experience. Then I realize, that I get to that level of excitement for something like Jurassic Park or Fast & Furious and I'm reminded that I am just a "geek" for a different thing. Adam Riskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01165600746796326821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-34617296574310396312015-04-28T05:24:32.913-05:002015-04-28T05:24:32.913-05:00Nice!Nice!Adam Riskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01165600746796326821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-82675842727937532822015-04-28T05:23:28.806-05:002015-04-28T05:23:28.806-05:00I laughed out loud when I read "red in her le...I laughed out loud when I read "red in her ledger." I laugh every time I think about that phrase for some reason. Adam Riskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01165600746796326821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-65148543915859629862015-04-28T05:20:05.869-05:002015-04-28T05:20:05.869-05:00Without going into spoilers, just curious, what...Without going into spoilers, just curious, what's the correct order for continuity? I'm impressed that you're doing that. Adam Riskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01165600746796326821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-42820765153386849022015-04-27T22:22:13.261-05:002015-04-27T22:22:13.261-05:00As a non-comics guy who's seen every MCU movie...As a non-comics guy who's seen every MCU movie and TV episode to date, I admit to some enduring mystification as to just who these Ultron and Vision fellows are. Evil robots, I think? (I've avoided all the previews.) Going into the first <i>Avengers</i>, I already knew who pretty much all the characters were, and definitely the major ones, so I'll be going into this one kinda blind. This is... exciting, I think?Gaithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07025861553487915665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-30104749655844402322015-04-27T21:00:36.632-05:002015-04-27T21:00:36.632-05:00And that's not to say that I somehow am above ...And that's not to say that I somehow am above these movies, because I'm not. I enjoy them as much as the bext guy, they just aren't particularly deep movies. Outside of a few exceptional moments scattered throughout the movies, they really don't have much on their mind.Tim Smedlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824805812900026614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-35929259499827910712015-04-27T20:54:11.312-05:002015-04-27T20:54:11.312-05:00I have a wierd apathy to the MCU. I enjoy most of ...I have a wierd apathy to the MCU. I enjoy most of those movies, and am usually excited to see them, but I literally never think about them, something you guys alluded to here. And as excited I was for the first AVENGERS, I have at best a lukewarm interest in ultron. I have plans to see it this weekend, but if I don't get to it I'll be fine with that. I'll go see it soon, but that's more of a function of not having shit to do. But I really could never get into a heated debate with some one who doesn't like these movies because I just don't like them enough to defend them. Really odd, conflicting feelings about movies that probably don't deserve the amount of thought I've put into this paragraph.Tim Smedlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824805812900026614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-462890223587108472015-04-27T16:21:06.619-05:002015-04-27T16:21:06.619-05:00I don't quite have the time to watch 10 movies...I don't quite have the time to watch 10 movies this week (a bod this good takes time, am I right ladies?........ladies?), but I have downloaded all the Avenger-centric podcasts that I listen to. What did Patrick and Doug think about the Avengers 3 years ago? Let's reminisce. Brian Sagernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-64092408970895626472015-04-27T11:50:48.160-05:002015-04-27T11:50:48.160-05:00Well, I'd say it's not so much a TV model ...Well, I'd say it's not so much a TV model for the movies as going back to the source and modeling the whole universe (movies, TV, shorts) after the comics.<br /><br />The characters all have their own solo comics but they can guest-spot on each other's books and then there are the big crossover events. There's limited series for the events (movies), ongoing comic books to tell long-running stories (TV shows), and one-shots for smaller stories (that's what they're calling the short films). You can read (watch) any one of them individually, but together they fit into a bigger whole.Mikko Viinikkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16045016331246302112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-86488898771003559242015-04-27T11:00:51.345-05:002015-04-27T11:00:51.345-05:00"This is why I think Marvel used the idea of ..."This is why I think Marvel used the idea of story arcs found in modern television and then pushed it to film. Each movie is an episode."<br /><br />The <i>AV Club</i> made <a href="http://www.avclub.com/article/why-ithe-avengersi-is-the-best-tv-show-in-movie-th-75212" rel="nofollow">this very argument</a> back when the first <i>Avengers</i> opened. :)Gaithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07025861553487915665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-52304382642172399822015-04-27T10:58:09.532-05:002015-04-27T10:58:09.532-05:00I know it's uncool to say, but I don't hav...I know it's uncool to say, but I don't have any interest in a solo Black Widow movie - the character's just too ultra-competent and cucumber-cool, and any trace of angst about the "red in her ledger" bores me. I'd much rather watch Lady Sif go on an interplanetary adventure, or have Spider-Man just happen to be a girl in this timeline or something. Widow's fine in the ensemble, sure, but she intrigues me not at all.<br /><br />Ruffalo's an awesome actor and his performance in the first <i>Avengers</i> was interesting, but I loved how Norton looked haunted all the time, and I want to see more of Liv Tyler's character. And I'm Team Cheadle all the way; I loved how the second half of <i>IM3</i> turned into a quasi-buddy Iron Men movie between the two of them, and how athletic and badass he was in that green polo shirt, whereas Howard was just too chill to picture joining in.Gaithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07025861553487915665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-59490672014275604212015-04-27T10:52:48.535-05:002015-04-27T10:52:48.535-05:00Sup Sol! I'm watching them in order of release...Sup Sol! I'm watching them in order of release date. Adam Riskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01165600746796326821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-26728406166193676812015-04-27T10:45:00.202-05:002015-04-27T10:45:00.202-05:00I would definitely rather be Iron Man over Hulk. F...I would definitely rather be Iron Man over Hulk. Flight, energy blasts and regenerative properties FTW! But 15 minutes isn't much time.John Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08810774557887719483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-90066428519318939702015-04-27T10:35:58.865-05:002015-04-27T10:35:58.865-05:00Fun chat guys - I'm about to embark down MCU L...Fun chat guys - I'm about to embark down MCU Lane so quick question Adam: What order are you watching them? Release date? Chronologically?<br /><br />I'm somewhere slightly below Patrick on the excitement level - as much as I've enjoyed the MCU movies, <i>Guardians of the Galaxy</i> is the only one I felt anything close to excitement for and that's only because I'm Canadian and have an unnatural affinity for raccoons. <i>The Avengers</i> sat on my blu-ray shelf unwatched for over a year before I finally got to it - I dunno, they're great and all but never anything I get all jazzed up to see like, say, a new <i>Fast and Furious</i> (sorry 2012 Sol, that's your future) movie.<br /><br />A few more random thoughts:<br /><br />(a) Black Widow should have her own damn movie - I'm glad she was such a big part of Cap 2 but c'mon!<br /><br />(b) Krysten Ritter looks like Anne Hathaway had a baby with Halloween?! Amazing.<br /><br />(c) I should have said a <i>couple</i> more random thoughts.<br /><br />So will you guys actually brave the crowds to see AoU on opening night or do you wait a few days to let it cool down - me, the latter, but I don't mind being a little behind the Zeitgeist.Solhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03114869401584310369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-24925868925665681942015-04-27T10:17:28.903-05:002015-04-27T10:17:28.903-05:00Adam: "Because they really do work well when ...Adam: "Because they really do work well when watched in succession with each other. It feels much more like one big movie that way. On their own, many of the Marvel movies have underwhelmed me but when watched together I can forgive a lot of their faults, such as the set-up of the Avengers in Phase One which now feel like they're leading to something as opposed to feeling like they are merely disrupting the movies that they are in."<br /><br />This is why I think Marvel used the idea of story arcs found in modern television and then pushed it to film. Each movie is an episode. Some are good, some are bad but when you stand back and look at the season, it's supposed to come together as one.<br /><br />But when Avengers 2 and Ant Man open within weeks of one another, Phase 2 and 3 feel like they're blending together rather than reaching an epic ending for the second series.<br /><br />News of an extended cut of Avengers 2 coming to blu-ray makes sense since the film is 2 hrs and 15 minutes and the initial locked cut was 3 hours. From all accounts of friends overseas, the character of Ultron goes from an idea to an (spoilers) enemy in about 3 minutes of screen time. Too rushed.Cameron Cloutierhttp://www.bodianstfilms.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-37277399040979216692015-04-27T10:10:40.863-05:002015-04-27T10:10:40.863-05:00I really enjoyed Ultron (it came out last week her...I really enjoyed Ultron (it came out last week here in the old continent) but at times I couldn't help but see the machinations behind it all. Like the story doesn't move on its own, certain stuff happens because it needs to for the next eight movies and because the actors' contracts are a certain length. But I guess that feeling is just because I read all the news and internet rumours. I really shouldn't but I just can't help myself.<br /><br />I've really liked every Marvel movie (maybe with the exception of IM2), but then again I'm such a nerd for Marvel that I actually keep an up-to-date list detailing the correct order to watch each movie, one-shot, tv episode and tie-in comic to line up the continuity perfectly. So maybe I'm not looking at them from the same perspective that sane people are.Mikko Viinikkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16045016331246302112noreply@blogger.com