tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post6769496735568260641..comments2024-03-19T05:54:12.521-05:00Comments on F This Movie!: Cinema Bestius: FargoPatrick Bromleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00771837625286775607noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-48781623485797012262016-07-29T17:41:30.249-05:002016-07-29T17:41:30.249-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lindsay Wilkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418341720079552415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-74842478898438144862016-07-29T17:41:22.866-05:002016-07-29T17:41:22.866-05:00I knew it!!!I knew it!!!Lindsay Wilkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418341720079552415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-74567752106825550752016-07-29T10:29:38.580-05:002016-07-29T10:29:38.580-05:00Note -- You all should know that JB typed that las...Note -- You all should know that JB typed that last comment while sitting inside a giant mechanical spider.janbottighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00126929026388305201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-87069006229752393502016-07-28T08:08:11.876-05:002016-07-28T08:08:11.876-05:00I will only say that it's not Wild Wild West.I will only say that it's not Wild Wild West.JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17076030814908114779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-1092407640012427102016-07-28T07:06:13.010-05:002016-07-28T07:06:13.010-05:00Yes I did forget South Korea! You know you are goi...Yes I did forget South Korea! You know you are going to have an amazing time in movie from South Korea.Lindsay Wilkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418341720079552415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-88287268551762646122016-07-28T06:24:02.456-05:002016-07-28T06:24:02.456-05:00You forget South Korea. It's ridiculous how m...You forget South Korea. It's ridiculous how many super movies come out of a country that size.Paul Calverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11748440093206090195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-28751920623675929512016-07-28T03:32:19.135-05:002016-07-28T03:32:19.135-05:00Oh and Fargo is frecken perfect!Oh and Fargo is frecken perfect!Lindsay Wilkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418341720079552415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-16611230327087398112016-07-28T03:30:31.793-05:002016-07-28T03:30:31.793-05:00Wow and I thought Australia didn't get anythin...Wow and I thought Australia didn't get anything. Things like Neon Demon or even High Rise never get picked up, and if it does it is usually in a festival. So thank goodness for the Melbourne Film Festival. Though I saw A Man Called Ove (swedish) I don't really recomend it - it was for my bosses birthday, but it was nice to see something with subtitles outside of a festival. I have been loving the Pope's list because I think its a really great footing for movies and where to start. Then you can go in so many different directions. Sometimes I get overwhelmed by the things I haven't seen, espcially when considering all movies from France, Russia, Italy, Argentia, China, Japan, and even Australia. To many movies too little time.Lindsay Wilkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418341720079552415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-49573683902318545142016-07-28T01:22:54.959-05:002016-07-28T01:22:54.959-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Paul Calverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11748440093206090195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-32443756019158462932016-07-28T01:21:46.577-05:002016-07-28T01:21:46.577-05:00\?I'm really loving this Cinema Besuis series....\?I'm really loving this Cinema Besuis series. Now we should be placing bet on who will be first? I would guess that Bladerunner and Alien will come soon, but not first. Any bets? Wild Wild West? Back To The Future 3? Fantastic Planet (it's a freaking good one)? <br /><br />Your guess is as good as mine.Paul Calverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11748440093206090195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-19196851198468531332016-07-28T01:13:29.225-05:002016-07-28T01:13:29.225-05:00This a great movie. I say great for the ok movies...This a great movie. I say great for the ok movies, and for the best movies, because I'm a crap writer, but this is one of the best.<br /><br />I freaking love Macy's character. How he has truth staring him in the face, but he just chooses to ignore it. That really speaks to me (and not really in a good way, but still), because I've been exactly the same way, through teenage-hood with my folks, through marriage, having kids, divorce....just steely eyed and pretend all is right. Great movie, and so much to love, but he's my favorite part of it.Paul Calverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11748440093206090195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-62969356421192319692016-07-28T01:06:31.711-05:002016-07-28T01:06:31.711-05:00Maybe going to see an "animated" movie d...Maybe going to see an "animated" movie dubbed over isn't as bad....but a live movie.<br /><br />I know it's pretty common in Quebec, but I'd be curious to see if it's as common in Europe. Presumably, much more "local" movie would be shown, but I wonder whether the majority of English language movies are dubbed or not. There are virtually no subtitled English movies in Quebec. They are either dubbed or in English.Paul Calverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11748440093206090195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-76112165401912931412016-07-28T00:59:31.102-05:002016-07-28T00:59:31.102-05:00I originally wanted to say "the foreign films...I originally wanted to say "the foreign films are all in the top 20", but thanks for the clarification Chaybee.<br /><br />I love subtitles. Actually, as a naturally born English speaker, I watch nearly all movies with subtitles. As a kind of good French speaker, I watch French movies in French with French subtitles. Other movies I watch in the natural language with English subtitles.....<br /><br />The damn worst, is, in damn Quebec, when we go to the movie theatre, half the freaking movies are dubbed over in French. dubbed the f over. My biggest problem (because I don't go to see those ones) is that it reduces the number of movies being shown....they have to add a ton of extra showings in French. Thus the Neon Demon never showed there. But Finding Dory showed in a bunch of screens in English, and a bunch more in French.<br /><br />Worse yet, a huge chunk of the population watches ALL their movies in French...American movies dubbed over, of course.<br /><br />Recently, my Ex, a francophone, got my kids to watch Pixels, dubbed into French. I understand why she's pushing for them to learn/watch things in French (and I'm all for that), but I had a pretty good chuckle that they were exposed to that piece of crap...dubbed over. My 7 year old apparently liked it????<br /><br />OK, rant over.Paul Calverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11748440093206090195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-13274366626674669482016-07-27T11:22:37.363-05:002016-07-27T11:22:37.363-05:00I agree Chaybee, the best of lists are not to blam...I agree Chaybee, the best of lists are not to blame for the phenomenon, but I think they contribute by legitimizing the phenomenon. I once had a conversation with an American film goer who claimed he had seen all the greatest films of all time (which is an insane claim for anyone to make), however when I asked him how he determined what films were 'the greatest' he cited some AFI list. I started pressing him on his film knowledge and found out he had never seen a single Italian film! Yet, he believed un-ironically that he had seen every great film. <br /><br />Thank you for your forgiveness, your sprocket holiness!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16912129619846697535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-49288014258573723052016-07-26T17:49:55.972-05:002016-07-26T17:49:55.972-05:00I prefer "Your Sprocket Holiness."I prefer "Your Sprocket Holiness."JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17076030814908114779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-83524974263247286872016-07-26T15:31:04.442-05:002016-07-26T15:31:04.442-05:00No problem, your Popeness. No problem, your Popeness. Chaybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696179838579647187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-54251463212748139582016-07-26T15:10:03.301-05:002016-07-26T15:10:03.301-05:00Thank you, apostolate Chaybee, for speaking up in ...Thank you, apostolate Chaybee, for speaking up in the Pope's hour of need. The Pope was at the dentist getting his holy molars worked on. Young Josh? You are forgiven.JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17076030814908114779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-44813215397323903912016-07-26T11:58:14.315-05:002016-07-26T11:58:14.315-05:00No problem, Josh. I agree that "many English...No problem, Josh. I agree that "many English speaking film goers avoid seeking out world cinema" though I'm not sure it's because of "best of" lists. Unfortunately, I think it can be as simple as "I don't like subtitles" (how often do you hear that?!, drives me nuts) and also there is little marketing in the US for foreign films to the average film watcher. Those into film will seek out the alternative but I think most Americans are just causal movie goers who see whatever is big at the box office and whatever is pushed in their face by marketing. Chaybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696179838579647187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-48850430281021860282016-07-26T11:04:55.688-05:002016-07-26T11:04:55.688-05:00Thanks, I must have missed that one. Thanks, I must have missed that one. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16912129619846697535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-32241170572351020882016-07-26T09:44:51.644-05:002016-07-26T09:44:51.644-05:00"The Pope (me) is confining himself (myself) ..."The Pope (me) is confining himself (myself) to English-language films, because the Pope (me again) needed to narrow the scope (the Pope Scope) to a manageable level. It is decided! And now, bow your heads (toward the screen) and let us begin."Chaybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696179838579647187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-72442153257355020842016-07-26T09:41:53.220-05:002016-07-26T09:41:53.220-05:00The Pope mentioned in the very first post that he ...The Pope mentioned in the very first post that he was only including these types of films. Chaybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696179838579647187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-82494964596571391342016-07-26T09:37:39.403-05:002016-07-26T09:37:39.403-05:00I want to mention something but I'm not sure h...I want to mention something but I'm not sure how to do it without sounding like I am shitting on JB's top 50 (which I have enjoyed so far). I know that this top 50 is not meant to be taken too seriously, that the 'Pope' is making fun of the very idea that any one person could construct a list which represents the 'best films ever made'. However, I can't help noticing that this fits into a trend I see with most American lists, which is that it contains nearly all English speaking films, almost all of which are American made. From what I can see, this is entirely an American phenomenon. I have never seen a list of the greatest films of all time from France which included only French speaking films. If Hitchcock, Chaplin and Scorsese were absent from a list we would think that was absurd. Why do we not make the same complaints when Kurosawa, Resnais, Tarkovsky, Renoir and Felini do not show up on American lists? I know making a list is pretty harmless, and usually it is just a way of pointing people in the direction of great films, but this phenomenon helps support a myth for many Americans that all (or most) great films are American. In turn, this leads to many English speaking film goers to avoid seeking out world cinema. Sorry for the rant JB, I hope this isn't taken as me blaming you specifically, I am just trying to highlight something I see a lot on film sites. Also, I am not complaining about the films on your list, it is a great group of films. I just think we need to be careful when we say things like: the best films of all time and fail to be representative of the breadth of world cinema. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16912129619846697535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-24126331492551166092016-07-26T08:59:59.909-05:002016-07-26T08:59:59.909-05:00Just re-watched ZODIAC yesterday on a whim, and I&...Just re-watched ZODIAC yesterday on a whim, and I'm so glad JB mentioned JCL. Such great performances in both films. Rob DiCristinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13402698333999727219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-48065869451151869592016-07-26T07:04:00.716-05:002016-07-26T07:04:00.716-05:00That John Carroll Lynch talk you saw sounds amazin...That John Carroll Lynch talk you saw sounds amazing. I love that guy. He has such a presence on screen and just commands attention; still doing it in this years Invitation. Fargo is one of those films that I think is nearly perfect. The script, acting, tone, cinematography, setting (of course) all just works perfectly for me. And to think "The English Patient" beat it out for best picture! Haha!Chaybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00696179838579647187noreply@blogger.com