tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post7574955050133490174..comments2024-03-27T15:16:57.305-05:00Comments on F This Movie!: Heavy Action: Red DawnPatrick Bromleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00771837625286775607noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-83065536436486912752021-12-13T18:35:54.925-06:002021-12-13T18:35:54.925-06:00Ooooh snap! Y'burnt, Patrick!Ooooh snap! Y'burnt, Patrick!<br />I can count.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17617391232789523144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-61674271893888275652021-12-13T04:36:24.327-06:002021-12-13T04:36:24.327-06:00I agree with you that the reviewer, Patrick Bromle...I agree with you that the reviewer, Patrick Bromley, appears to be a garden variety Leftist who allowed his politics to get in the way of actually reviewing the film. He seems more intent on an ad hominem attack Milius rather than than actually critiquing the film. allimerchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02707477753378617015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-33237756163378093712014-09-05T18:25:19.184-05:002014-09-05T18:25:19.184-05:00What I don't understand is if you are going to...What I don't understand is if you are going to make a movie like this why not make it realistic. A number of Tom Clancy books could achieve this as a great basis for a WW3 film. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-2966581367403301112012-07-12T14:32:53.552-05:002012-07-12T14:32:53.552-05:00As a fan of the podcasts/blog and a "right-wi...As a fan of the podcasts/blog and a "right-wing nut" i guess i will at least put up a different opinion.<br /><br />But it is difficult because I agree that the movie just isn't very good. <br /><br />And I think you are correct that its very much a "'merica fuck yeah" movie, but I think that you are giving it way too much credit about how its trying to "scare America" <br /><br />You may be a bit too young to remember, but 1984/1985 there was a huge rush of "we are awesome" sentiment. The LA Olympics, Reagan winning the 2nd term by a landslide, economy was rocking along etc, all lead to a feeling of new found optimism in a big section of the country. And after the 70's impotency of the US from the oil crisis/stagflation/Iranian Hostages, people were feeling good about themselves again. <br /><br />This movie just played to that sentiment, I enjoyed this movie when it came out (I was 18)for what it was, a group of kids in my demographic blowing shit up. No one that I knew was afraid of the Soviets by this time, and certainly not the Cubans. It was simply a movie about how great we are, that even small group of kids can be all kinds of kick ass. <br /><br />Just a quick note on the blood drinking scene. It is a fairly common practice when you kill your first deer. I didn't do it because it is disgusting, but i knew people who did. It was practiced by american indians as well. (which doesn't make it any less gross) However, if an american indian drank the blood in a different movie i doubt you would be as harsh.<br /><br />All of that is to say, I agree with your assessment that the movie isn't good, but i just think you are looking for a right wing boogie man where there really wasn't one. <br /><br />/ducking.... :)scotttexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-2523332755754826102012-07-11T21:06:20.361-05:002012-07-11T21:06:20.361-05:00You know, I saw this once on HBO in the mid-80'...You know, I saw this once on HBO in the mid-80's and fucking hated it. All I remember was (a) some dudes peeing on the radiator of a car to get it to work and (b) the cheapness of staging a <i>'Russians invade America'</i> flick that focuses on a middle-of-nowhere town/region that wouldn't bust the small budget (works for <b>"Tremors"</b> but not "Red Dawn" IMO). The ABC mini-series <b>"Amerika"</b> from 1987 (which lasted seven days and had the bucks -<i>money bucks</i>- to stage a cool-looking nationwide invasion) and <b>"The Day After"</b> from 1983 (ABC made-for-TV movie about the aftermath of a nuclear attack, not the Emmerich <i>'we can outrun the weather'</i> flick) had a more lasting and profound impact on me than "Red Dawn." And let's not forget <b>"Damnation Alley,"</b> the scariest movie about what happens when pussy liberals argue against a "Star Wars" missile defense mechanism (which is kind-of ironic if you think about it). <br /><br />All that said, reading Patrick's review and being more cinematically mature and aware now of what kind of a madman John Milius is (the type that I don't mind supporting when I like his flicks because, as right-wing nuts as he might be, his movies come across as Milius giving 100% of himself to its creation) this column is making me want to rewatch "Red Dawn" for the first time in at least 25 years. Guess when the remake rolls around theaters the Blu-ray might be re-released cheap and with 'movie money' to entince people to go; I might just bite, and it'll be all because of you Patrick. ;-)J.M. Vargashttp://www.dvdverdict.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-39961047525236054102012-07-11T19:59:08.492-05:002012-07-11T19:59:08.492-05:00How can you mention that National Reviews top 25 f...How can you mention that National Reviews top 25 film list and Ghostbusters in the same paragraph and forget to mention that it was also on that list (as are Team America and 300)? <br /><br />C Thomas Howell had major roles in Asylum movies; surely those take precedent over a bit part in the Not So Amazing Spiderguy. <br /><br />It’s John McClane not John McLane. You should be ashamed.<br /><br />I remember seeing an interview with Milius about Red Dawn and I believe that the reason why the characters are kids is that Red Dawn was originally written as a retelling of Lord of the Flies (by the writer/director of Waterworld). The studio then bought the screenplay with the idea of turning it into a light-hearted action romp for the younger set (ala Iron Eagle). Milius had always wanted to do a movie about guerrilla warfare but since no one would give him the money to make it he decided to hijack an existing project.<br /><br />It will be interesting to see if the Remake is any good. I suspect that it won’t be because it will pander to the radical right and play to the Obama is the antichrist sentiment (they’re releasing it around election time aren’t they?). But it could work. John Marsden’s Tomorrow Series managed it for a while by having the war represent adolescence. It jumped the shark and got seriously insane in the last couple of books though with the good guys shooting up shopping malls to distract the baddies, making erection jokes while strangling people and launching into big speeches about how vigilantism is awesome, how big government can suck it and how running around shooting at people and being shot at is fun and makes you a well-adjusted person.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-61375949594679506642012-07-11T09:18:35.970-05:002012-07-11T09:18:35.970-05:00Funny that there's a remake that's yet to ...Funny that there's a remake that's yet to be released that could be the worse. There was a big bruhaha about the bad guys changing from Chinese to North Korean during production because PROGRESS.Shannon B.noreply@blogger.com