tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post8238954689581255377..comments2024-03-18T15:46:07.295-05:00Comments on F This Movie!: F This Movie! - Independence Day: ResurgencePatrick Bromleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00771837625286775607noreply@blogger.comBlogger77125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-34384609751738095232017-03-28T19:35:53.015-05:002017-03-28T19:35:53.015-05:00Finally got around to seeing ID:R.
I had some fun...Finally got around to seeing <em>ID:R</em>.<br /><br />I had some fun with the original <em>ID</em>, but by no means would I call it a "good movie." There's a lot of crap in that movie. Cases in point: Judd Hirsch is just as much a stereotype in the original as he is in the sequel. The comedy beats in the original, such as Will Smith dragging an alien around and kicking it, or just about everything Randy Quaid does, aren't funny, they're dopey, and barely better than what we see in the sequel. The whole affair is implausible, over-the-top ridiculousness. Even with all that, I do carry some fondness for it as a big, dumb, action movie romp.<br /><br />The sequel is certainly worse, but for me it's not completely out of step from the original. The difference being where they sit on the crap-o-meter. If <em>ID</em> is 60% crap, then <em>ID:R</em> is 75% crap. I think the original movie gets an unwarranted pass, when it's really only 15% less crappy than most of Emmerich's films.<br />SmartyManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05799597526676287848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-79530376058809428662016-08-08T12:10:19.611-05:002016-08-08T12:10:19.611-05:00I´m more on Team Patrick, although I was mildly en...I´m more on Team Patrick, although I was mildly entertained by ID:R. But that movie really made me think about the fact, that my fellow german Emmerich hasn´t grown the least bit as a writer/director since ID4. Together with Godzilla and 10000 BC for me this is his worst movie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-52306489211012277662016-07-01T22:24:19.891-05:002016-07-01T22:24:19.891-05:00To each their own I guess Brian. I watched the mo...To each their own I guess Brian. I watched the movie, I enjoyed it too. I wasn't left with any less gray matter for watching it. I would argue the actual movies that require one to use their brain are actually diminishing quite quickly. Hollywood is driven not by creativity but by profit margin anymore, thus, eliminating anything new and untested. The last movie I remember watching in the theater that actually caused a "what did I just watch? I might have to see that again" reaction was Inception. Great movie! Nolan's track record preceded that movie and my viewing of it. I expected a great movie and got one. Most days I just hope a movie keeps my attention and my enjoyment of said film is met rather than not. Here's to better cinema!RunawayDuelRighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02534345148902182134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-47713271440956262742016-07-01T17:21:55.266-05:002016-07-01T17:21:55.266-05:00Seconded. No need to pipe in, you took the words o...Seconded. No need to pipe in, you took the words out of my mouth.J.M. Vargashttps://plus.google.com/u/0/114656828393049850554/postsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-59647403249137431392016-07-01T15:01:16.510-05:002016-07-01T15:01:16.510-05:00Saw the movie last night. My buddy turned to me ev...Saw the movie last night. My buddy turned to me every couple of minutes to ask plot hole questions, and we left saying how bad the movie was. I did like Data, though. Predator Minute Podcasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02958735770519595547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-79045920306982396562016-07-01T10:58:22.643-05:002016-07-01T10:58:22.643-05:00JB: I grew up ten minutes from the Monroeville Ma...JB: I grew up ten minutes from the Monroeville Mall, and my parents still live there. Have fun! Matt Lohrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375007982506565056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-47448153824961817532016-07-01T07:53:53.539-05:002016-07-01T07:53:53.539-05:00I think the problem with making a "dumb fun&q...I think the problem with making a "dumb fun" movie is that if it's not fun, you're just left with dumb. Full disclosure, I haven't seen this movie, and don't plan to. I'm actually one of those monsters who really dislikes the first Independence Day (the movie, not the revolution). I just don't buy into "turning my brain off" and having fun. I like my brain, I get a lot of pleasure from thinking. So dumb fun doesn't wholly appeal to me, with a few exceptions (long live Beverly Hills Cop 3!). But I don't think Patrick has a problem with expectations, he generally seems to take movies on their own terms. I think the divisive nature of this podcast shows that people are either way up for ID:R, or they're reallllly not. Brian Sagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15266020828208581370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-32069114381422281452016-06-30T23:33:10.042-05:002016-06-30T23:33:10.042-05:00The scope of the point you're trying to make h...The scope of the point you're trying to make has grown from Theaters to now encompassing the entire film industry. Even if I was an eloquent enough person to create a succinct response to such a large topic I'm reasonably sure this wouldn't be the place for me to do it so I'll simply bow out of this line of discussion.Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05129602094443434975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-14959746418806429372016-06-30T20:57:35.538-05:002016-06-30T20:57:35.538-05:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHL91HQzhuc Rant o...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHL91HQzhuc Rant overE.S.A.D.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18214282257870634349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-35898228913715062582016-06-30T20:47:51.071-05:002016-06-30T20:47:51.071-05:00Ant-Man had a budget of 130 million! What does th...<i>Ant-Man</i> had a budget of 130 million! What does that movie mean to us? Alright, enough of my nonsense now.E.S.A.D.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18214282257870634349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-15726931182085976072016-06-30T20:45:14.823-05:002016-06-30T20:45:14.823-05:00And watching Scare Pewdiepie while they watch Jame...And watching Scare Pewdiepie while they watch James Corden clips on facebook while they play Happy Wheels and live stream Demon Souls campaigns. What? What smokescreens? Huh? Who?E.S.A.D.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18214282257870634349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-38638745550023051252016-06-30T20:42:42.455-05:002016-06-30T20:42:42.455-05:00Don't forget that just Force Awakens budget wa...Don't forget that just Force Awakens budget was 245 mil disclosed, on a franchise that is planning to release, what, three more trilogies? That's ten more movies, give or take? What happens when there are 20 Star Wars movies to pick from, all with 200 million $ budgets? These are just huge, nearly unimaginable to the average person numbers, and we expected to take on face value just what's making how much and how much is being spent and who is sharing what with who. Remember the Harry Potter profits memo? (http://deadline.com/2010/07/studio-shame-even-harry-potter-pic-loses-money-because-of-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting-51886/) When lucasfilm told David Prowse that Return of the Jedi had never made a profit? (http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/)<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting<br /><br />Never hold anything a movie studios tells you is true to be so just because they're insisting it is. There's a lot we just don't know about these numbers, and there isn't a ton of reasons to go out and deal with the whole experience. Went to a relatively early screening of Swiss Army Man tonight at 7pm, and there were at most 5 other people in the theater with me. Everybody else is going home and watching DVR'd espisodes of property brothers and hell's kitchen and watch what happens live and Drag Race, and letting their kids hang out on snapchat and play Overwatch. What the hell do half these things I'm saying even mean? When the entertainment business is so insanely glutted with options on how you ingest media and how you spend your time, and who's getting a slice of which pie, who really knows who's getting what money and where it's being spent? I know I sound like an insane person. We just all have to make up our own individual minds about what was worth to who in the entertainment arena, and you're not going to run into much besides specially constructed echo chambers regarding those answers where ever you go looking for them.E.S.A.D.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18214282257870634349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-39079307790313149512016-06-30T17:38:56.453-05:002016-06-30T17:38:56.453-05:00Thanks. I haven't heard on reviewer call him h...Thanks. I haven't heard on reviewer call him his stepson.Kathynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-54297957288470257532016-06-30T17:15:31.737-05:002016-06-30T17:15:31.737-05:00It's not a matter of what my bosses tell me, t...It's not a matter of what my bosses tell me, the numbers are out there for pretty much anyone to see. Star Wars: The Force Awakens made $2 billion worldwide at theaters ($936 million of that was domestic). If theaters disappeared tomorrow, even just in the U.S. do you honestly think Disney wouldn't try to make up that nearly $1 billion dollar shortfall elsewhere? Prices on streaming services and rentals would go up dramatically. There is no way you'd be paying what you are now to watch new stuff at home.<br /><br />U.S. box office numbers hit a record $11 billion for 2015. The first half of 2016 has kept pace with last year. This isn't a dying industry. There have been some big flops. That's true pretty much every year. Some studios have execs that make bad decisions. That's also always going to be the case, and it's going to continue to be the case regardless of where you watch your movies. If you prefer not to go to the theaters, hey I get it. There are a lot of valid reasons people don't like the experience of going out to watch movies. The notion that because you're going to stop going to the theater though, everyone else is going to stop going as well doesn't hold up in the face of the numbers.<br /><br />I don't want to sound like a shill for the industry I happen to work in, it's just that since I do work in it I tend to read a lot about the numbers.Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05129602094443434975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-29522741351333473052016-06-30T09:10:49.223-05:002016-06-30T09:10:49.223-05:00I'm sure he's just pissed that it's ea...I'm sure he's just pissed that it's eating into his Junesploitation time. I'm very thankful that the whole gang takes the time to make these podcasts/website/special events, especially Patrick.Paul Calverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11748440093206090195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-41277548928098580062016-06-30T08:43:51.325-05:002016-06-30T08:43:51.325-05:00Patrick is so angry lately, between this and the X...Patrick is so angry lately, between this and the X-Men: Apocalypse pod I'm genuinely concerned. That being said, I've seen mixed reviews around the net for this one, don't really know what to think. Great show, but I'll be waiting for blu ray on this one.Kersey Reschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08115416019425288456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-9670143748639448412016-06-30T06:26:09.496-05:002016-06-30T06:26:09.496-05:00The podcast is great! 5 stars! Hope you enjoy th...The podcast is great! 5 stars! Hope you enjoy the movie.Paul Calverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11748440093206090195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-90658916671488769712016-06-30T06:24:00.928-05:002016-06-30T06:24:00.928-05:00WTF Esadd?? And Spiderman, not Superman, obvs.WTF Esadd?? And Spiderman, not Superman, obvs.E.S.A.D.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18214282257870634349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-79900837787122574792016-06-30T06:20:57.223-05:002016-06-30T06:20:57.223-05:00corrections: *$12bil off the whole franchise, not ...corrections: *$12bil off the whole franchise, not one movie. *overestimating.E.S.A.D.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18214282257870634349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-59547597829864520472016-06-30T06:14:35.557-05:002016-06-30T06:14:35.557-05:00Ouch?!? I guess camp Patrick then.
(slinks off in...Ouch?!? I guess camp Patrick then.<br />(slinks off into the shadows clutching his worn copy of 2012).Paul Calverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11748440093206090195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-75320824688868270852016-06-30T06:00:53.589-05:002016-06-30T06:00:53.589-05:00Don't forget the overspending on budgets, espe...Don't forget the overspending on budgets, especially marketing, to the point that we can't even accurately estimate what the actual budget for something like BvS or Ghostbusters really is. There was no such thing as a 200mil budget 5 years ago, but desperation and bad decisions are pushing towards stuff like 180 million dollar disclosed budgets for stuff like Legend of Tarzan (rumored to just be to appease David Yates desire to do a Tarzan dream project so that he'd agree to helm the next slew of Harry Potter spin-offs; who the fuck cares if David Yates directs more Harry Potter? He made all the worst ones in the franchise, and was the one most single-handedly responsible for turning that franchise into a colorless slog after Goblet of Fire. HP7 part 1 is easily one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The decision to do this was made by the same man behind green-lighting Pan and Jupiter Ascending; at least 150mil and 184mil respectively, all at the same studio. At least that guy is gone now. The movies we're seeing now are the result of bone-headed decisions by clueless movie execs 7 years ago. Ghostbusters exists because of insane decisions made by Amy Pascal. It's all damage control over there until they figure out how to right ship and we won't know what those decisions are until around 5 years in the future. Amy Pascal is the genius who thought they were a shoo-in to make <i>$12bil</i> worldwide off a <i>Superman vs. Amazing Superman</i> crossover starring Tobey <i>and</i> Andrew Garfield and directed by Sam Raimi. She wanted Channing Tatum to play Venom. She wanted Mary Jane to become Carnage. She thought she could pull a whole Marvel Cinematic Universe out of <i>one character</i>.) I apologize for <i>my</i> rant, but no one is going to go broke underestimating the poor decision making skills of these folks. They luck into the hits they get. Deadpool makes a totally unexpected 7.6 hundred mil worldwide, is the biggest domestic opening weekend opening of all time? Great! Fox can make 3 or 4 more X-Men: Apocalypses (178mil prod budg.) I know you work in the industry, but whatever your bosses are telling you isn't true. I was at Barnes & Noble a few years, and people could see that ship sinking a decade out. It's to the point where that chain is willing to begin selling alcohol in store for a shot at staying alive. Start looking elsewhere, man. You're worth it. Use this time to beef up your education while you're still getting a paycheck.E.S.A.D.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18214282257870634349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-87368491650447010702016-06-30T05:25:50.749-05:002016-06-30T05:25:50.749-05:00I'm certainly not a fan of this movie, but the...I'm certainly not a fan of this movie, but then I haven't liked most of Emmerich's movies in the past 20 years since the original Independence Day. I've often wondered if Stargate and Independence Day (and Universal Soldier to a lesser extent) were just lucky accidents and Emmerich himself never actually understood what people liked about them.<br /><br />There are a lot of ways that ID:R when wrong but I think my biggest problem was the one-dimensional new characters played by actors who maybe don't yet have the chops to find ways to somehow make these characters interesting.Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05129602094443434975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-82944816206128044852016-06-30T05:09:25.449-05:002016-06-30T05:09:25.449-05:00Sure, it's all doom as long as you ignore the ...Sure, it's all doom as long as you ignore the record box office numbers, the ever-growing worldwide market, and the fact that if theaters went away studios wouldn't just let those billions of dollars go and the end result would either be more expensive streaming services or each studio having their own service.Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05129602094443434975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-20557420581011824212016-06-30T02:08:18.423-05:002016-06-30T02:08:18.423-05:00Will do, man! They just can't compete. The d...Will do, man! They just can't compete. The death knell they've been fearing since the '50s (TV, then VCRs, and now finally cheap streaming/cable) is finally here.E.S.A.D.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18214282257870634349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217427319662074458.post-17963000499379726682016-06-30T01:58:21.009-05:002016-06-30T01:58:21.009-05:00So lame! Theaters are businesses and they need to ...So lame! Theaters are businesses and they need to compete with home theaters/large flat screens/computers/anything else with an internet connection. Most people don't give a shit and will wait for a movie to make it to their homes. I would think from a business perspective that their best interest is to get butts near their concession stand. My only thought is some contract with distributors makes this arrangement less than ideal. Jokes on them, the more they resist the closer things get to slipping away...and the theater experience doom. Entrenched businesses don't like change and why I won't waste money on ID:R until Video. I can buy it for less than the theaters experience would offer. Granted not as awesome but close and fiscally sound. Sorry for the rant. Go max out your movie pass.Cullenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12129227971739897345noreply@blogger.com