Friday, October 23, 2015

F This Movie! - Sleepy Hollow

Lose your head with Patrick and Heath Holland.



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Also discussed this episode: Horrors of the Black Museum (1959), House of the Long Shadows (1983), Christine (1983), Vampires (1998), Animal (2014)

16 comments:

  1. Heath, your modern Sleepy Hollow trailer forgot, "Produced by Christopher Nolan..."
    BBBBWWWWWAAAAAA

    Love getting the extra show guys!

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  2. Whoa, you managed to get both Jeff Goldblum and Christopher Walken to do the podcast, then somehow managed to convince their doubles to be on it, too. Kudos.

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  3. 12 year old me definitely did not think the frogs chirping "Ichabod" was for played laughs. Scared the crap outta me.

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  4. Can I request that Adam Riske watch the fish movie Beneath and share his thoughts?

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  5. They're showing this on ABC Family?

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  6. I am with you guys on Sleepy Hollow although I am probably a little more lenient on it. Johnny Depp/Ichabob Crane is my least favorite part of the film by far. I thought everyone else was pretty good. It doesn't hurt that I have a major crush on Ricci either.
    As far as Burton goes I think you guys are spot on that this is the movie that you start to see the problems emerge, although they are repressed enough in this to keep it from being a major problem. Sleepy Hollow is the last movie of his that I really enjoyed with one huge exception, Big Fish, which is probably my favorite film he ever did. On the other hand he took two of my favorite all time films (Willy Wonka and Planet of the Apes) and completely mangle the remakes in ways I couldn't imagine.
    Thank you guys for doing all the episodes this month, greatly appreciated.

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    1. I really, really like Big Fish. It's a very mature film from Tim Burton and manages to deal with some complex emotions in a way that feels miles away from his other emotional work, Edward Scissorhands. As hard as I was on Tim Burton in this episode, he's been one of my favorite directors since I was, like, 10 years old. When I get frustrated, it's because I feel like he's capable of doing so much better than he's done for the past 10 years or so. I pretty much feel the same way about Johnny Depp, a guy who used to consistently turn in honest and moving performances in movies like What's Eating Gilbert Grape and even Donny Brasco. I expect more because I know what they're capable of when they actually show up.

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    2. I should note Sweeney Todd as an exception for both men in the past 10 years.

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    3. I think Sweeney Todd may be my favorite Burton movie. Besides Pee Wee's Big Adventure, of course.

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    4. I always thought Sweeney Todd was a diamond among the 2000s Depp-Burton lumps of coal.

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    5. For some reason I always think Sweeney Todd was much earlier the it was. I always think of it coming out around the same time as Sleep Hollow. Anyway, I agree it is well done but it just isn't my kind of thing.
      And I think Heath has got a very good point about Depp and Burton. They just seem to have become bad influences on each other. Perhaps the courts can force a a separation for a few years.

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    6. I give Sweeney Todd a ton of credit, but I also have to remember that it's based on a fully-formed musical where the story, music, and setting is already there. It's a work of adaptation by Burton, but he does adapt it really, really well. The biggest things he did was bring his visual style, his pal Johnny, and his cast of English character actors. It's certainly a huge contribution to Sondheim's musical, but that musical was pretty amazing to begin with.

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  7. Holy jeez, Heath doing that Transformers noise... I backed that up and listened to it, like, five times.

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  8. Cheers guys. Great fun as ever

    Dont worry Heath. That joke might not stick? No one mentioned it in the comments and I wont bring it up :) Im too busy with old ones like Hollywood Heath Holland Hulk Hogan Hoctober or Tickler Pramboy.
    I love that Heath loves the British Gothic horrors like this one, makes me kinda pround to be a Brit, if you ever watch Let Sleeping Corpses Lie Aka The Living dead in Manchester Morgue that was filmed in my hometown. The film isent great but its homely but not at all Gothic

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  9. That IS 2 references to the Happening, Patrick. It will one day be your Italian Horror. You love it, you just don't know it...yet...

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  10. Not sure this will be read but here goes: Early in the review, Patrick mentioned reading Insomnia. I've read many King novels and was surprised that the ending somewhat resembled the world Trade Center attack (king referenced that in an interview at some point as well). King also writes on several occasions about school shootings before they became a somewhat common occurrence.

    Saying all of that, is there anything (book, documentary, etc.) That discusses terrible things written in books or shown in film that are repeated in reality? Specifically how the author/screenwriter/director deals with that?

    I know there are crazy right wing conspiracies trying to tie violence in games, books, and movies to the rise of violence in schools etc but I'm looking for something that isn't stupid and facile.

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