Saturday, September 2, 2023

Weekend Open Thread

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  1. The Lone Ranger (2013): let's face it, this movie is not great. in fact we'd almost like to forget it exist. if only it didn't have this great opening action sequence, and then closing with the MOST AWESOME TRAIN CHASE SCENE IN HISTORY! (ahem, sorry about that) Buster Keaton would be proud. the rest of it is forgettable. Johnny Depp does faces, because that the only thing he could do after doing 50 Pirates of the Caribbean movies in a row (well, 3 in a row in 2006-07). Armie Hammer was beginning to be the hot new face in Hollywood, then stuff came out in recent years and we quickly forgot he even existed. this is the second to last movie directed by Gore Verbinsky and it's a shame. he didn't do all masterpieces, but he was interesting (i need to rewatch The Mexican and Mousehunt). nowadays, when i watch this movie, i watch the beginning, up until the 'resurrection', then skip directly to the ending.

    Josie and the Pussycats (2001): every couple of years i remember this movie exist, listen to the F This Movie podcast on it, then rewatch the movie and remember how awesome and funny it is. there's nothing i can say here that Patrick and Rob didn't say better in the podcast.

    Unforgettable (2017): in previously mentioned podcast, this Adrian-Lyne-esque movie was mentioned because it stars the always awesome Rosario Dawson. it's the kind of sexy adult f*ck noir that we don't get anymore. the title is mostly on point with the quality of the movie, but is saved by Rosario Dawson and Katherine Heigl. the guy only exist to say to Rosario that she's crazy and she's imagining things, so let's not mention him.

    A Few Good Men (1992): another one i watched after re-listening to an old FTM podcast episode. the guys liked it, but they did point out some flaws in the movie, and this time it's all i could see. maybe i should've waited a couple of days before watching the movie (listened to the podcast on my way home, then promptly put in the blu-ray when i got home). i still really like the movie though, because it is that good.

    Beverly Hills Cop 2 (1987): this movie is awesome. Tony Scott was the man, and often misunderstood (often by me) in his time. i know most people prefer the first one, but to me this is where it's at. the 4K blu-ray of the first one is in the mail, so i'll watch it next. i also ordered 48 Hrs, which will get here tomorrow, thanks to amazon prime.

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    1. Mousehunt is extremely entertaining. It's actually a movie I'm been wanting to show to my dad, but our time is together is so limited that I haven't done it yet. It really felt like the early comedies that my dad would show me when I was young. I think (hope) that he would like it.

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    2. I have fond memory of it, but it's been so long i barely remember it

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    3. Hey! http://www.fthismovie.net/2021/02/movies-is-good-mousehunt.html?m=1

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    4. That's weird, the movie doesn't come up in the alphabetical list

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    6. i apparently commented on the article, but i don't remember watching the movie (that was only a couple of years ago, i should remember something)

      So anyway, i got the blu-ray on ebay

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    7. I think they've stopped adding things to the list? The Wes Craven movies aren't on there, and I remember Rosalie was on a The Village episode and it's not on there either. Not a criticism, as I know keeping everything up to date and all the links working must be a huge pain in the butt.

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    8. That's too bad, but i get it.

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    9. Ok...with a thumbs up from Paul AND JB...i must find this silly Mousehunt movie!

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  2. Hope you are all well. I’ve had precious time to watched movies lately, and have mostly been working through Star Trek TOS in bits and pieces here and there. I did have time for a few notable ones though:


    This was a movie that I didn’t totally connect with. A Thousand and One (2023, dir. A V Rockwell). It was pretty great how it it showed the evolution of NY around these people as they went through life, and the whole premise that family is super important was something I felt, but it ended weird. I’d recommend this indie as a small movie about a family just trying to survive in NY. It has a great score too.

    I watched Cruising (1980, dir. William Friedkin). Saturday Night Movie Sleepovers podcast has a fine episode on it. I want to watch more of young Al Pacino movies, a blind spot for me (I know, I know, I’ve never seen The Godfather). I actually watched the first ~hour at the gym on a tablet, (exactly how Friedkin wanted it to be watched. I know, I know, but I get in some movie watching when I can). I was a little uncomfortable because there was a fair bit of explicit nudity and “sexual content”. I don’t care, but I did skip ahead a few times.

    Halls of Montezuma (1951, dir. Lewis Milestone) was a decent enough war movie. It was well made, and had some great battle scenes, but I didn’t really connect with it overall. It seemed to be lurching wildly between the two feelings, anti-war “it’s horrible”, and “let’s go get them boys!” propaganda type stuff. Worth a watch, but far from a must see. There were a couple scenes of tanks driving over the trenches that Peckinpah must have surly been inspired by before making Cross of Iron

    I finally watched Romancing the Stone (1984, dir. Robert Z) which as a really fun take on the jungle adventure. My first memory of this movie was seeing a random episode of Rosanne (a show I never watched, but of course have seen many episodes because I was alive in the 90’s), and someone came back with a VHS of “Romancing the Bone”, and there was a joke about it being a porn tape. I was glad to finally see it.

    The Bob’s Burgers movie was pretty good, but only for people that liked the show. I remember our podcast hosts not really liking it but also having never watched the show. Like a lot of animated TV show to movie things, it just felt like a long episode. It’s a good show, so I would recommend checking that out before the movie.

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  3. Hi F-gang! Hope everyone's having a great weekend.

    Last year I decided to watch enough William Shatner movies to get him to number 1 on my "most watched actors" list on Letterboxd, and tonight I achieved my goal. 32 new-to-me Shatner films in 14 months, and Shatner passed Samuel L. Jackson on the list.

    A few of my favorite Shatners:

    Roger Corman's Intruder (1962) is easily my favorite of the bunch. Shatner plays a stranger who arrives in a small town just as racial segregation is ending and starts inciting hatred and violence among the racist townspeople. Shatner gives a speech touting conspiracy theories about communists and Jews, which sounds frighteningly similar to some of the more toxic discourse today. Not a subtle movie, but an effective one.

    In WW2, an American bomber was lost and presumed crashed in northern Africa, but the wreckage was only found 15 years later. Sole Survivor (1970) tells an interesting story inspired by that incident. A team of military personnel (including Shatner) investigate the crash site while the ghosts of the bomber's crew hang around and wait for the truth about the crash to come to light. A fascinating little morality play.

    Batman vs. Two-Face (2017) is the second in a series of animated movies based on the 60's Batman TV show, with Adam West, Burt Ward and Julie Newmar voicing their classic characters. It's a fun romp that gives an interesting alternate backstory to Two-Face (voiced by Shatner and modeled on how he would've looked had he played the role in the 60's), but unfortunately it's an inescapable fact that the actors in their 80's sound like they're in their 80's.

    Pray for the Wildcats (1974) has three co-workers (Shatner, Marjoe Gortner and Robert Reed), each with their own problems at work and at home, taking a motorcycle trip to Mexico with a prospective client (Andy Griffith), but things get hairy when the client turns out to be the biggest asshole the world has ever known. I pretty much only knew Griffith as Matlock, so it was quite a shock to see him play a bad guy.

    And Disaster on the Coastliner (1979) has two passenger trains on a collision course, and Shatner's slick conman has to become the hero who saves the day. The ending of the movie is surprisingly thrilling.

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    1. If Andy Griffith playing a despicable character interests you, Mikko, the 1957 film A Face In The Crowd is one you should seek out. It is one of the most cynical American films of that period..

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    2. Congratulations! Shatner has a lot more acting credits than I realised. I re-watched all of the original Star Trek movies with Blank Check commentary this summer, but I'd struggle to name another movie with Shatner. Visiting Hours is the only one I've seen (great slasher!). And Dodgeball, but I don't even remember him being in it.

      If you want to get more of Shatner, the TV show T.J. Hooker is actually pretty entertaining. Every episode has a few nice stunts, car chases, things getting blown up, people thrown from high places, etc. The 2nd season episode "The Decoy" was directed by none other than Leonard Nimoy and would be a good episode to watch and get a taste of what the show brings. The Canadian TV channel CTV has it streaming for free with ads on their website (I don't know if it's available outside of Canada though).

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    3. Oh, and if you do end up delving into T.J. Hooker, there's an excellent watch along podcast called Hooked on T.J. Hooker, made by one of the guys from We Hate Movies (Eric, the funniest of them, and another guy Ben who sometimes is a guest host on WHM). They only do an episode a month, and often skip months, but it's one of my favourite podcasts. Very funny.

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    4. I've thought about delving into T.J. Hooker, but it's not streaming anyhwere where I live, and hasn't even been released on DVD outside North America (not the whole show anyway, there seems to be a British DVD for seasons 1 and 2), so getting into the show is on the backburner for now.

      Btw, of the Shatner films I mentioned, The Intruder, Pray for the Wildcats and Disaster on the Coastliner are all available on YouTube if anyone's curious.

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  4. I finally saw THE GOOD, THE BAD and THE UGLY (1966)! I was looking for movies with interesting takes on the Civil War. It did talk a little about the role alcohol played in the war, which was interesting. Of course most soldiers had to be drunk, of course.

    Tuco is soooo cute. It should be called The Good, The Bad and The Cute. But thatʻs not manly, I get it. But definitely one of the most lovable characters. I *would* love the scene with his priest brother, cuz thatʻs the sappy part, but it really was a gold scene. This is the kind of film I just want to keep thinking about and thinking about. Itʻs telling lots of stories in just a few.

    Letʻs see, I rewatched THE NEGOTIATOR (1998), which I saw in theaters when it came out. I really liked it back then. I like it now. Itʻs not new but still feels sharp. F. Gary Gray directed. Maybe I will try to see his THE ITALIAN JOB finally.

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    1. The Negotiator is really fun. The good old days of mid-level thriller

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    2. Oh yea, so I watched a YT video from Civil War Movie Reviewers, reviewing TGTB&TU and GONE WITH THE WIND, and GANGS OF NEW YORK. I was so surprised they said GANGS OF NEW YORK had way more violence than what was historically accurate. *Way more*. That kind of made me laugh. Like oh, Martin Scorsese. I appreciate him trying to make a point of the conflicts, but itʻs not...accurate?! What?? Itʻs pretty much passing as historical fiction. But even for the parts that are more historically accurate (based on lots of other sources) itʻs actually a very hard movie to learn history from. For example, if you want to learn the makeup of the gangs, Henry Thomasʻ character introduces them all in one of the first scenes. But his accent is so thick and heʻs talking so fast, itʻs super hard to follow. Same with all the stuff going on at the docks. I think Scorseseʻs presentation of the key factors going on in the period is ineffective in the movie, unfortunately. Itʻs a movie that I REALLY wish was better. Like, can he please redo it and so I can show it in history class.

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    3. @Kunider - YES! There were so many mid-level gems! Mid-gems?

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    4. I've been wanting to watch the "Dollars Trilogy". I know I've seen one of them (probably The Good Bad Ugly? It had a 3 way standoff at the end). I was hoping to watch them on TUBI, and they were on the "leaving soon" list, but I waited too long and now they're gone.

      I love The Gangs of New York, and it's a movie I could throw on anytime. But I never once considered that it might be historically accurate. It's a movie, not a documentary, so I'm willing to buy into whatever story it's telling. You could still show it in history class! Why not, haha. If I was a teacher, I'd want to show the kids movies everyday! I would be a Maths or Physics teacher
      however, and would have less reason to show movies than those in the English or History departments.

      BTW, I recently discovered a new podcast that is very good. It's called "Service on Celluloid" and it examines WW2 movies and discusses their historical accuracy. It's produced by The National WWII Museum and I believe it's actual historians hosting. But they're very much movie lovers too and willing to say "this thing might be a little inaccurate, but it works to heighten the tension, so works well in the movie." etc. as an example.

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    5. The podcast sound good. I've downloaded a few episodes. Too and they stopped making the podcast

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    6. Oo, thank you for the WW2 movie podcast, Paul! Totally going to check it out.

      You know I donʻt usually care about the historical accuracy of movies too much, either. "Historical accuracy" is a hard thing to attain, even outside of movies. But for some reason it surprises me in GONY. Maybe itʻs because it seems to be kind of like a love letter to New York history, so...what was the purpose of changing it? The historical parts hardly affect the father-son storyline? Anyway - itʻs not a hill Iʻm willing to die on - arguing with Scorsese about a NY movie, but I admit I have some questions.

      Sounds like you did see The Good Bad Ugly!

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    7. Ok I thought about it and answered my own question. It would make sense to over-emphasize the draft riots to highlight the exploitation of poor immigrants who were used as soldiers in the war. Which is something Scorsese is cool for doing. I want to be supportive of his messages. Iʻm really looking forward to KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON!

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  5. My fiends and i decided we were tired of our brains and wanted to melt them away by watching a duo of Charlie Kaufman movies. We watched Synecdoche New York and Adaptation. All right, they're not that brain-melting weird, but you still have to stay alert.

    I really like SNY, but i understand those who don't. It's a bit up its own ass, but maybe that's the point of the movie... I dunno. Philip Seymour Hoffman is great as usual.

    Adaptation is a movie about itself and the writing of it, which can be frustrating for some. And has a third act problem, but if you've seen the movie you could think it's voluntary (because of the Brian Cox scene). Anyway, i like it a lot

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  6. I went to Shankweiler’s Drive-In for a double feature of DAZED AND CONFUSED (1993) and WET HOT AMERICAN SUMMER (2001), neither of which I had seen before. Dazed and Confused is a terrific hangout movie with a cast that has made a big impact in the movies over the past three decades. Matthew McConaughey’s performance is one of the most relaxed I have ever encountered in a film. This is also the first Richard Linklater film I have watched. Wet Hot American Summer has a following, but I am not the audience for it. The blending of sketch comedy, parody, and drama does not work for me. I stuck around for the conclusion largely because it was such a beautiful night to be out.

    THE SPY WHO CAME (1969) – Going through my Netflix DVD queue with a re-watch of this Something Weird release. The Spy Who Came was one of my favorite sexploitation watches years ago, and it remains a solid film for the genre. The story involves a vice cop who is being blackmailed by an Arab (played by a white actor) to participate in a conspiracy. Women are being “programmed” to compromise high-profile men for some kind of evil purpose. The presentation is far more artsy than one would expect while delivering the expected scenes. Although the accompanying feature is extremely tedious, the DVD extras are always a fun part of the Something Weird experience.

    More pet sitting this weekend meant watching more Dr. Who episodes. I saw a couple of series featuring the second Doctor, Patrick Troughton, from the late 1960s. I was introduced to Dr. Who three decades ago through the Tom Baker period. It is interesting to see how the program evolved during its first twenty-some years. Seven actors portrayed the Doctor during that time with numerous companions coming and going. I must admit that the 1980s series are not ones that I enjoy much. The Dr. Who revival of the past two decades I have not delved into.

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    1. Never been a fan of WHAS either. Strangely enough, this is the kind of comedy i usually like. I have no idea why this one didn't click with me.

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