I'm honestly surprised they haven't re-made this movie yet. It seem's ripe for it. At least in the studio eyes. A quick cash grab with a hipster Ally Sheedy, and a Rapper Judd Nelson and you would be basically printing money for a modern audience. Sad but true.
That's pretty great, but teachers confiscate phones and stuff for in school suspension. That actually would be an awesome underlying theme regarding how teens react for hours with others without social media. Hmmmm...I never cared for the idea of a remake of BC but now I think a lot can be done with it.
I think this is the most insightful podcast I've heard from you guys. I learned a lot that I didn't know and really liked the details of the discussion.
I am a bit ashamed of myself as I have never seen this movie completely (bits and pieces over the years but never a full sit down viewing) but still had a fun time listening to this episode and I will get on that this week for sure its my new number 1 to watch next. As to JB's point, yes the wish has been granted we are getting more classic screenings and off the beaten path movies. In my local area I'm getting to see 4 different Disney flicks a week at my local Cinemark theatre (part of a Disney screen test they are doing at a handful of theatres) as well as their standard different classic movies being released each week. Also on top of that I will be seeing Jaws on the big screen as part of a special Universal Team Member screening for the 40th Anniversary. So yes thank goodness for digital theatres popping up everywhere or else none of this would be happening- gotta keep feeding the entertainment monster.
Me too Tom, im being movie shamed here I know, I will come back soon once ive rectified that problem, I wish I could of seen it at the screening, Great podcast as always. Cheers
I have never taken the Ally Sheedy makeover as a betrayal of her character at the end of the movie. I feel like she's still the same person and I don't think she's going to go in to school on Monday looking like that. I think it's just her coming out of her shell a little bit on that day. If a guy had long hair that hid his face and he decided to get a haircut it wouldn't change his personality. I think Molly Ringwald was just like you're a pretty girl you should show some of that off a little more sometimes and it did make Ally Sheedy feel pretty and confident at the end. She was pretty before of course but I don't think she felt that way about herself. If there was a prom scene and Ally Sheedy got dressed up for the prom would that be a betrayal of the character? I don't think so, but thats just my take on it. Love the movie, love the podcast as always and smoke up Johnny the musical almost made me pee myself. Thanks guys!
"Did you give her the hot beef injection?" becomes "Did you give her some hot loving affection?"
"See, I don’t think - that I need to sit - with you Fucking Dildos anymore." gets turned into "See, I don’t think - that I need to sit - with you Stinking Dummies anymore."
A theater company in LA did a stage version of The Breakfast Club a few years ago. I don't know what the licensing situation was in terms of how they got the rights, but the possibility is out there.
Speaking as a former (?) "Allison", all those other types WERE the entertainment in school. Watching all the drama and angst and backstabbing and pettiness...all to impress people without once wondering if they were even worth impressing. Thinking all of it was SO important when - as we're reminded - all you may have to show for it is a picture on a bulletin board (that no one in the movie "The Gallows" ever looked at). It's why I've never watched "Sex and the City" - they're just the shallow, self-absorbed girls I couldn't stand in high school who just never grew up. (btw, I came by my cynicism honestly - end of middle school my Mom had to become full time caregiver to her parents. Grandpa had cancer and Grandma had a stroke and we lived off of his Social Security checks because Mom had to be there 24/7. That went on almost to my graduation) The make over never bothered me because it was never about looks but about trust and being giving between the two, I thought. It also didn't bother me too much about Anthony Michael Hall's character not hooking up. The guy just admitted he'd recently had suicidal thoughts. Not the healthiest time for him to be doing that. Hall is a really good actor and he did pull things together and starred in a "Dead Zone" TV show that he produced. If you haven't seen it, it's worth a look.
Very jealous of you JB that you got to see "Mad Monster Party" with Svengoolie.
Count me as an adult who never saw it growing up (it came out while I was in junior high) but watched it last month on TV for the first time and thoroughly enjoyed it (aside from the Ally Sheedy transformation, of course :) )
Also - with respect - you missed the entire point of the film.
The initial conceit is that they begin as those archetypes that you claim the film asks you to be one of; but the entire point is that they're placed in this room and under the microscrope - the archetypes are *broken down*; so that they're revealed to NOT just be those archetypes - and that when Nelson's character lists those archetypes at the end - it's meant to be ironic - as they now know that they're not what you claim the film is saying they are. The film is telling the audience to look deeper than the archetype - understand?
Yes, I don't think it's possible to miss the entire point of the film, since the entire point of the film is driven home with Hughes's patented enormous brown shit hammer of obviousness-- understand?
I'm honestly surprised they haven't re-made this movie yet. It seem's ripe for it. At least in the studio eyes. A quick cash grab with a hipster Ally Sheedy, and a Rapper Judd Nelson and you would be basically printing money for a modern audience. Sad but true.
ReplyDeleteThere is a great imgur comic that explains why not.
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That's pretty great, but teachers confiscate phones and stuff for in school suspension. That actually would be an awesome underlying theme regarding how teens react for hours with others without social media. Hmmmm...I never cared for the idea of a remake of BC but now I think a lot can be done with it.
DeleteI think this is the most insightful podcast I've heard from you guys. I learned a lot that I didn't know and really liked the details of the discussion.
ReplyDelete"Smoke Up Johnny" is my favorite musical number that hasn't been written yet. Someone needs to get on that.
ReplyDeleteI am a bit ashamed of myself as I have never seen this movie completely (bits and pieces over the years but never a full sit down viewing) but still had a fun time listening to this episode and I will get on that this week for sure its my new number 1 to watch next.
ReplyDeleteAs to JB's point, yes the wish has been granted we are getting more classic screenings and off the beaten path movies. In my local area I'm getting to see 4 different Disney flicks a week at my local Cinemark theatre (part of a Disney screen test they are doing at a handful of theatres) as well as their standard different classic movies being released each week. Also on top of that I will be seeing Jaws on the big screen as part of a special Universal Team Member screening for the 40th Anniversary. So yes thank goodness for digital theatres popping up everywhere or else none of this would be happening- gotta keep feeding the entertainment monster.
Me too Tom, im being movie shamed here I know, I will come back soon once ive rectified that problem, I wish I could of seen it at the screening,
DeleteGreat podcast as always. Cheers
I have never taken the Ally Sheedy makeover as a betrayal of her character at the end of the movie. I feel like she's still the same person and I don't think she's going to go in to school on Monday looking like that. I think it's just her coming out of her shell a little bit on that day. If a guy had long hair that hid his face and he decided to get a haircut it wouldn't change his personality. I think Molly Ringwald was just like you're a pretty girl you should show some of that off a little more sometimes and it did make Ally Sheedy feel pretty and confident at the end. She was pretty before of course but I don't think she felt that way about herself. If there was a prom scene and Ally Sheedy got dressed up for the prom would that be a betrayal of the character? I don't think so, but thats just my take on it. Love the movie, love the podcast as always and smoke up Johnny the musical almost made me pee myself. Thanks guys!
ReplyDeleteI don't have much to add, but I have to agree with this reading.
DeleteI agree as well. I never took it as a betrayal of her character, but I do prefer a girl with dandruff. :)
DeleteWhere's the uplike this post button? :-)
DeleteTell me about the fucking rabbits, George. Ha!
ReplyDeleteAs someone who's seen what I like to call the WGN Edit a million times, some highlights of the fake swearing:
ReplyDelete"Fuck you, Claire! Fuck you!" becomes "Flip you, Claire! Flip you!"
"Did you give her the hot beef injection?" becomes "Did you give her some hot loving affection?"
"See, I don’t think - that I need to sit - with you Fucking Dildos anymore." gets turned into "See, I don’t think - that I need to sit - with you Stinking Dummies anymore."
Five words: St. Elmo's Fire commentary track.
ReplyDeleteA theater company in LA did a stage version of The Breakfast Club a few years ago. I don't know what the licensing situation was in terms of how they got the rights, but the possibility is out there.
ReplyDeleteAlly Sheedy does indicate in the movie that she is a compulsive liar. Maybe that extends to her clothing and personality, too. Just another theory.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking as a former (?) "Allison", all those other types WERE the entertainment in school.
ReplyDeleteWatching all the drama and angst and backstabbing and pettiness...all to impress people without once wondering if they were even worth impressing. Thinking all of it was SO important when - as we're reminded - all you may have to show for it is a picture on a bulletin board (that no one in the movie "The Gallows" ever looked at).
It's why I've never watched "Sex and the City" - they're just the shallow, self-absorbed girls I couldn't stand in high school who just never grew up.
(btw, I came by my cynicism honestly - end of middle school my Mom had to become full time caregiver to her parents. Grandpa had cancer and Grandma had a stroke and we lived off of his Social Security checks because Mom had to be there 24/7. That went on almost to my graduation)
The make over never bothered me because it was never about looks but about trust and being giving between the two, I thought. It also didn't bother me too much about Anthony Michael Hall's character not hooking up. The guy just admitted he'd recently had suicidal thoughts. Not the healthiest time for him to be doing that.
Hall is a really good actor and he did pull things together and starred in a "Dead Zone" TV show that he produced. If you haven't seen it, it's worth a look.
Very jealous of you JB that you got to see "Mad Monster Party" with Svengoolie.
Count me as an adult who never saw it growing up (it came out while I was in junior high) but watched it last month on TV for the first time and thoroughly enjoyed it (aside from the Ally Sheedy transformation, of course :) )
ReplyDeleteYou really should look at "She's Having a Baby" again. It's a great film that gets criminally overlooked in Hughes' canon.
ReplyDeleteSurprised it wasn't mentioned.
Also - with respect - you missed the entire point of the film.
ReplyDeleteThe initial conceit is that they begin as those archetypes that you claim the film asks you to be one of; but the entire point is that they're placed in this room and under the microscrope - the archetypes are *broken down*; so that they're revealed to NOT just be those archetypes - and that when Nelson's character lists those archetypes at the end - it's meant to be ironic - as they now know that they're not what you claim the film is saying they are. The film is telling the audience to look deeper than the archetype - understand?
With respect, I don't think we missed the point of the film. I think we got it.
DeleteYes, I don't think it's possible to miss the entire point of the film, since the entire point of the film is driven home with Hughes's patented enormous brown shit hammer of obviousness-- understand?
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